Late Cucumbers in the Onions

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Has anyone tried this? I don't remember having ever sown cucumber seed late. Now late, would mean late in June. The starts were set out just into July.

And, where did they go? Into a bed of onions!

Those sweet onions were pulled as green onions in such a way as to make room for the cucumbers. Onions and cucumbers don't necessarily make good companions. I have read that cucumbers have allelopathic properties that inhibit the growth of other plants. I don't know. I've also got some in the sweet corn and may be seeing that problem with the corn there. Anyway, most anything can bully the onions but as the cucumbers have grown, more and more onions were pulled.

Perhaps, they have similar needs. I like to have both close to the sprinklers and always fertilize with a high nitrogen fertilizer with a liberal hand. What might be a bit different in the onion bed is that those onion seedlings were transplanted out in the garden very, very early. Fertilizing started early, also. I consider onions heavy feeders but they don't stay in the ground very long. Many were pulled as immature scallions but the sweet onions have all bulbed and the tops are falling over now. Soon, the cucumbers will have that bed all to themselves. And it looks to me, that they will make very good use of that soil!

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These vines have larger leaves than their sisters set out much earlier. Their sisters are producing cucumbers right now. I just hauled in a whole bunch, even a few out of the corn. The cucumber plants in the onion bed will be getting there soon, however. There are just a few tiny cukes and plenty of flowers!

Something that the plants could have going for them is to NOT being out there in a very cool June. They were protected from all that and only spent the last couple weeks of that month in containers in the greenhouse. I know spring cool weather will stunt plants and, probably, cucumbers are one of them. Be that as it may, I think I've found a good succession plant for the onion beds!! Cucumbers! Now to enjoy slices of both -- splashed with a little apple cider vinegar!

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Wow my late planting of cukes went in from seed mid July. They're still small, but they'll take off soon I think. They're only pickling cukes, and they sure do produce quickly once they get going. I always read they don't do well w/ onions, so I've never tried this> I'm sure all the fertilizing helped a ton!
 

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My ag extension calendar recommended a late planting of cukes for my area in mid-July (from seed). With the heat we've had, mine took off very quickly and I'm expecting to be picking some by next week. I thought planting some radishes around them would be cool and shady enough for the radishes to do ok, but they all bolted of course except for a few. However, they really do seem to keep the striped beetles at bay which I remember hearing somewhere. I need to buy a good book on companion planting. I tried to tuck as much as I could into my 2 little raised beds this year since it was all the garden I had. I did put carrots around my tomatoes too. They're just getting started.

My granny always used to keep cucumbers and onion slices in the fridge in vinegar. I think because she couldn't eat them fast enough otherwise. That sounds really good to me right now!
 

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I do quite a bit of succession planting. Some bok choy seed will go in tomorrow where the 1st potatoes were harvested a couple of weeks ago. I need to pay a little attention to rotations but it is not really companion planting. There's quite a bit of that in my garden also but it isn't generally based on much of anything :rolleyes:.

These aren't books but here are a couple things from Cornell:

Companion Planting - useful lists (click)

Companion Planting, Ecogardening (click)

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Here again are cucumbers that have followed alliums - shallots. Actually, what they followed was spinach.

Yeah, the spinach and shallots were together in the earliest bed planted. The spinach is long-gone. Now the shallots have been out for a week or 2. Some out for a week, some for 2 . . . the cukes forced my hand there but only just a little.

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Wow Steve, nice cuke plants. Do you always let them run on the ground like that?, I wonder if they have more growth on them on the ground. I always have my cukes on a trellis. I guess you can say I prefer my cukes straight.
 

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GT, I have never trellised them.

This is the 1st year in many that I don't have a Japanese cucumber in the garden. I have to say that I am a little frustrated by their characteristic crookedness.

One thing, I found a Beit Alpha variety (Muncher) that does well in my garden :). It is mild & "burpless" and I felt it could take the place of a Japanese variety. I missed one earlier this week and the little thing filled out fully. I was pleased that it was still mild with tiny seeds when I sliced into it yesterday. They are also way too short to worry about them growing in a circle ;).

Oh, by the way -- the high-N fertilizer that I use is an organic one. I was reading that only about 50% of the nitrogen in a green cover crop will be available in the 1st year after plow-down (30% in the 2nd year, 20% in the 3rd year). Even a "fertilizer" that is formulated from organic components seems to release plant nutrients over quite a long time. So, I'm kind of applying fertilizer for these cucumber plants that have followed the onions - months before those plants show up to make some use of it.

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