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I bought a Ferry Morse gardening guide and it has great tips that I thought I'd pass along.

IF YOU HAVE:
Clay Soil...... add coarse sand(not beach sand), compost, and peat moss.
Silt Soil.....add coarse sand or gravel and compost or well-aged horse manure mixed with fresh straw.

Sandy Soil....add humus or aged manure, peat moss, or sawdust with some extra nitrogen. Heavy, clay-rich soil can also be added to improve the soil.
 

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A note of caution: I know it's really popular to say that clay can be improved by adding sand, but IME this is only true if you add a whole huge lot of sand (very well mixed in) and a goodly amount of organic matter too.

If you add just "some" sand to clay, as a lot of people do with all the best intentions, what you get is something that simply sets into an even higher grade of concrete when it dries.

Organic matter is the MAIN amendment that clayey soils need, often in fairly large amounts. Sand won't hurt but doesn't make all that much difference either IME.

GOod luck, have fun,

Pat
 

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If you look at the mechanical properties of of sand versus clay particles, the sand particle is much larger and inert. It does not bond or react with anything on its own. The large sand particles are rigid and keep their shape (unless you crush it to dust). Pure sand had huge voids in between the particles which water will readily flow through. The Ferry Morse article mentions coarse sand because it is irregular shapes. Beach sand has been ground smooth, basically into round particles so it packs tighter than the irregular shapes sand particles. Think of a big box filled with oblong footballs or rugby balls as opposed to round basketballs or soccer balls, depending on your sports of choice, but think of those oblong footballs or rugby balls as having five or six points, not two.

The clay particles are tiny compared to the sand particles and they are very active in that they bond (I think at the molecular level is the correct term but that soils mechanics course was several decades ago) to each other and they adsorb water, swelling and shrinking as they get wet or dry. They will also bond to the sand particles. And the clay particles contain a lot of ions and such that make them a rich source of nutrients for the plants. So mix in a buch of soft, squishy, sticky dots, maybe the size of peas or smaller to that box of oblong balls above. If you add a small amount of these small balls, some will stick to each other, some will stick to the oblong balls, but a lot of void space will remain so that water flows through it pretty easily and it can be stirred pretty easily. If you keep adding more of the small balls to the bin and stir it up, eventually you will add enough that all the voids between the oblong balls are filled. Water no longer flows freely between the voids because they are filled.

Other things get thrown into the mix too, on how hard it will set up, like mechanical mixing and heat. There are different kinds of brick and ways to make them. In those that use a lot of sand, the proportions of sand to clay are carefully controlled so the sand particles touch each other. That minimizes shrinkage. The mixture is mechanically agitated to get the clay particles physically close together so the bonds are stronger. (That's why you do not want to work wet clay soils. They really set up hard afterwards. I have experience with that.) They are heated to remove the water to create the stronger bonds that are formed at high temperatures. The clay particles shrink as they are baked, the water is driven off, and the strong bonds are formed. The clay shrinking is what makes the brick porous. Special clays with specific characteristics are used. I'm mentioning brick making to kind of demonstrate some of the mechanical effects of the different soils particles and what is working in your soils. It's not that adding sand will make your garden set up like a brick. It is the bonding of the clay particles that will do that, especially when agitated and heated.

I don't kow what the effect of adding sand to your soil will be. My soils mechanics courses were pointed at foundations for structures, not gardening. It depends on the size and shape of the particles and the characteristics of what is already there and your conditions. I suspect Ferry Morse knows a whole lot more about soils relative to gardening that I do. I don't think adding some course sand to a clayey soil will hurt but I also don't think it will help a whole lot unless you add significant amounts. I suspect that if you don't disturb the soil when it is wet, that the clay will shrink and dry around the sand particles without forming really strong bonds since you are not agitating it or baking it, and leave some pore space for water to flow a little better. I don't think working it when it is dry will hurt anything. Hopefully I am being clear on what is my opinion and what is my knowledge. Maybe this helps somebody make a bit of a better informed choice.

I do know I will not purposely add gravel to my soil. I've hurt my fingers too many times on the small rock I have in mine already.
 

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I don't know bout theory or explanations.

All I know is, I have lived a number of places with very clayey (or pure clay) soil, and for a variety of reasons (many of them related to horses) dealt with situations where sand was mixed into that clay, and the result was even more obnoxious in summertime than the original had been.

;)

Pat
 

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patandchickens said:
A note of caution: I know it's really popular to say that clay can be improved by adding sand, but IME this is only true if you add a whole huge lot of sand (very well mixed in) and a goodly amount of organic matter too.

If you add just "some" sand to clay, as a lot of people do with all the best intentions, what you get is something that simply sets into an even higher grade of concrete when it dries.

Organic matter is the MAIN amendment that clayey soils need, often in fairly large amounts. Sand won't hurt but doesn't make all that much difference either IME.

GOod luck, have fun,

Pat
Yes, isn't that how they used to make bricks--clay, sand and hay. ;) I have alot of sandstone in my pure red clay (I should take a pic to show you guys, you could literally cast pottery with it). It puzzles me how the frost can heave up 15 lb boulders of sandstone. They crack and break easily and time you hit them with the tiller a couple passes, then you have sand. LOL I just add LOTS of manure and organic stuff and mine has improved drastically.
 

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I just add compost to my clay, and as I add each year it gets easier and easier to work. No sand needed.

I add sand to the chicken run, and we end up with a hilled muddy mess most of the spring!
 
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