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No, not from the sky, irrigation. The technique gets lots of bad press about inefficiency but is common over many acres of cropland. We had flood irrigation when I was a kid on the farm. Terribly inefficient but carrying a shovel over my shoulder still takes me back to those days ...

I tried a soaker hose once but I had three problems. Water tends to go straight down here )unless it appears as ice on this glacial till ;)). I would have needed a great deal of hose to cover all the ground, even in one small garden. I also couldn't separate the soaker hose bed from the schedule for all the sprinkler irrigated ground, nearby. Finally, I had no idea how much water I was putting down!

The amount of water is important, of course. It doesn't help most plants, beyond a shallow-rooted KBG lawn, to only have an inch or 2 of soil wet.

Soil type makes a difference. So does the crop. I can't put too much emphasis on the crop type, however. I'm growing lots of different things, sometimes in every square foot.

Age of plants makes a difference. In my annual vegetable gardens, young plants are pulling very little water out of the ground. Tiny plants also have tiny root systems. They may need that frequent light watering perhaps even more than the lawn grass. If they are to reach some size, a deeper root system would be helpful. Make them go searching for the moisture!

I've never thought wilt is a good thing and I've got the idea that running the sprinklers about every 3 days through our hot, dry summers would be best. Unfortunately, I wasn't in charge when calendars were set up and days were grouped in 7's. A 7 can't be divided by 3, evenly! And, I'm on schedules with everybody else. So, I water twice a week.

How much to put down? Look, summer rain account for very little here. A 1/4" is a big deal but it won't get through the trees, hardly wet the ground in the open, and will evaporate quickly in the sun and wind!

I try for 3 times that much, at least. At 3/4" of water, moisture is going down to plant roots. Consistently adding that water twice a week gives plants the opportunity to grow, up and down.

How do I measure that? By the clock and with an old pan from the kitchen. Set the straight-sided pan about half way from the sprinkler and the distance it's supposed to water. Check the pan about every 15 minutes. Couldn't be easier!

Steve :)
 

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did the sprinklers many years ago spent more time pulling weeds than either dw or i wanted to do. oh yes the garden was green but hard to find the veggies.

then got into using soaker hoses, you only put water down where the root system is, yes you have to move the garden hose to each soaker..good exercise.
depending on the length of the hose will determine how long to let drip.

yes i do agree with you large scale gardens are not soaker friendly unless you can do with a timer system like the strawberry growers around here use
plus in other drought areas they will do this as well, 4 operations in 1 pass, mound the dirt, lay the soaker, cover with plastic, plant the seedlings.

will say this the soaker hoses that you buy at the box stores suck wind now. dont care if you have city/well you need to put a pressure reducer on them or they will burst...
if you want to use soaker hoses find 5/8"id hoses they can handle both pressures. plus if you water off a well and it's not a high gpm well, soakers are the way to go...

as we have said before theres more than one way of doing things correctly, you just need to use the opinion that works best for your needs..
 

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I just bought soakers for the straw bales. They are so much smaller diameter than the ones I used to get. Gheesh. I don't have a pressure reducer, is that something that goes between the spigot and hose @majorcatfish ?

I usually use sprinklers for the garden just for the convenience aspect. But it does make all the weeds happy.
 

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I have round soaker hoses, and I have flat soaker hoses. I don't like the flat ones, because they kink easily, and have to be laid down flat in order to work right. Trying to keep the hose flat when turning corners is pretty difficult!
I haven't even used them at all the last couple of years. Way too much rain. I think I only watered my garden once last year.
We are expected to have no rain this week. Maybe my peppers will recover.
 

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I forgot to mention that what Steve said about the length of time to run the sprinklers. It is important to measure what you're putting on in a given time.
I have hydrophobic soil up in my front garden. I don't know what the deal is but the water doesn't penetrate very far down even though the soil is loose.
 

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I just bought soakers for the straw bales. They are so much smaller diameter than the ones I used to get. Gheesh. I don't have a pressure reducer, is that something that goes between the spigot and hose @majorcatfish ?

I usually use sprinklers for the garden just for the convenience aspect. But it does make all the weeds happy.
yes that is correct....
have found bulk 5/8" id hose on amazon where you make your own hose Lengths...
 

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I forgot to mention that what Steve said about the length of time to run the sprinklers. It is important to measure what you're putting on in a given time.
I have hydrophobic soil up in my front garden. I don't know what the deal is but the water doesn't penetrate very far down even though the soil is loose.
yup same here..too much too fast it just runs off....
 

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2 years ago I had it with fighting hoses and sprinklers. I had underground system put in, it is on a timer with a rain gauge. Best money I spent. I do still have to water things close to house ( I choose not to have water hitting house) If I ever win lottery would do same for orchard .
 

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theres more than one way of doing things correctly
There is a 300 acre onion farm in southern Idaho where all those acres are on drip irrigation! That means it's possible for far, far more ground than I can imagine.

I haven't even used them at all the last couple of years. Way too much rain. I think I only watered my garden once last year.
And, that means it's likely to be difficult to adopt an irrigation regimen when it is needed. It's almost unimaginable to me that so much of the US has summer rain ..! I read about homeowners who never water their lawns.

It is important to measure what you're putting on in a given time

Think of that experience and me running irrigation 40+ times each season or gardeners in Arizona and California with 70+ times.

Among the possible scenarios: Until the system is up and running, the gardener is entangled in an inefficient system.

I was up a few minutes after 4am. When I was outdoors at nearly 9pm last night, the new neighbor across the road had a sprinkler on the west side of her front lawn. When I looked outside after rising, it was still on. This is an area of about 300square feet. I have a similar sprinkler and think of it as my 45 minute lawn sprinkler. I wonder how many inches of water she put down, overnight!

underground system put in, it is on a timer with a rain gauge.
Nice!

Steve
 

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