The Realm of Possibilities

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This will seem critical, and from a risk-averse gardener, maybe overly so, but it's something I've stopped myself from saying enuf that it's getting kind of frustrating to me.

I'm talking about someone who has never been on this forum and probably knows nothing about it so I can give particulars... I hope. You should know that I tried this once about a business with forum comments and was contacted by a company rep, so this sort of thing can backfire.

Well, here goes: She used to live near Vancouver BC but moved from there about 10 or 12 years ago. I got the idea that she and her husband then packed up and moved to get away from her son and his wife in their new location, in south central BC. If anyone knows about this area, it isn't such a bad place for a gardener to be but they moved on to Calgary and after a few years retired outside of Edmonton!!

She is a person with an interest in gardening, at least, she says she is. It's the basis of our relationship, anyway. She has concentrated lately on plants she can move indoors during the winters. Cactus ..!

I guess it's fortunate for me that I don't know much about cacti but in the 4 or 5 years they have been there, she continues to try to have an outdoor vegetable garden. Her interest really seems to be heirloom tomatoes. ..!

The story has been the same at the end of each season. There were those days with a hailstorm or whatever, about mid-season. She tried to protect the tomatoes thru that and some other inclement weather but the plastic coverings blew off, or something. The tomatoes more or less survived until the season ended, much too early for them to produce any actual fruit ...

She seems to have dreams of big, meaty beefsteaks every year. Most recently, I watched from afar while she tried to grow yet another "German something or other." She didn't even know the name but I finally discovered it was another 80-day heirloom, yet again. I don't know if it was joined by the 3 or 4 other new varieties she tries each year.

Over the years, and at her other locations, I have shared a little of what has worked for me but she doesn't seem to pay any attention. I don't really know if my ideas would be of much help because she says she now lives in zone 1 ..! Canadian zones are different from USDA but I figure this must be about as far north as she could grow any single thing you might find in someone's yard!

Why do you suppose people move beyond the realm of possibilities in their efforts? Doesn't being successful mean anything to these folks?

o_O Steve
 

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Some people don't want to succeed. Could be they are afraid of success, or they would lose their status as a person who forges on, in spite of obstacles. Some people think being a martyr to their particular cause is honorable, no matter how unlikely success is. I am not one of those, I guess. Those people might call me a wuss.:\
 

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It's about the challenge. However for me, I like the challenge in growing weird inappropriate things for my area but, I succeed. I have seen Alaskan gardeners grow giant prize winning veggies with all sorts of techniques. But if she doesn't listen then what the use? Maybe she likes fried green tomatoes.
 

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We are all different Steve. Some people make a living trying to figure out want motivates others, I tend to not worry about it all that much any more. I have enough trouble motivating myself. It was a lot more important to me when I had kids at home. Each one had different buttons you needed to push or not push.

When I was in Denmark the only way I could get tomatoes to ripen was to grow them in a greenhouse. They did really well in there, even after my 5-year-old made sure they had plenty of good ventilation up high. I had to replace that panel when I left since it was a rental place.
 

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I suggested a greenhouse.

She might have gone for that in Calgary but after a few short years, they moved again. I don't even know if it would be enough help now but, I've never been to Edmonton and beyond.

I really thought that their best plan would be to return to BC. Maybe not Vancouver but, who knows?! I'd think it would be sufficient challenge to grow heirloom tomatoes and cacti in Vancouver!

A martyr? I'm not really sure. She seems upbeat enuf every time I communicate with her. She says very little about her husband. She just seems to be remarkably impractical about this part of her life and, maybe, other parts as well.

Moving away from her son was explained quite seriously so it isn't as though the decision was taken casually. I like that area a lot - Vernon.

Ten years ago, that city was listed in Consumer Reports as a best place to retire! Of course, by then I knew what misery I go through because of the lack of winter sunlight without going several clicks further north.

Steve
Edit: now that i think about it a little, that might actually be it. she may communicate to her son, "see what you made us do?" Shoot. i never thought of that, before!
 
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Drama....a lot of folks continue along a path that produces nothing but trouble because they love drama. Gives them something to talk and fret about, I guess.
 

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She sounds like a day-dreamer with her head in the clouds. I totally understand the allure of trying something fun and new, but unless she invests in a high-tunnel or comes to her senses about dtm, this sort of disappointing scenario will continue to replay itself. Some people garden just for the fun of it and to them it is not so critical if they get a good harvest out of it or not. Then there's those of us who are determined to actually see some benefit for all of that effort and plan to feed our families on it!
 

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She may set herself up for failure. I suspect that any garden production is fairly unlikely, the way she describes it.

Not too many of us would find a way to avoid our adult children but the drama may be that they might have been happy there but he wouldn't take responsibility for himself or his wife unless they left. I guess if they were to take that step, they may as well let him know. Push his buttons ;).

Her gardening approach is different from mine. That doesn't mean it's wrong. I have to learn to forgive ;). It sure doesn't make sense for me to be angry about it ...

:D Steve
 

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