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Artorius

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@Artorius those Bis beans sure are pretty, much more so than I had imagined they'd be. I know Heritage Harvest Seeds has sold those for the last couple years and I never considered getting them as I had so many wax beans already. But after seeing yours I think the next time I order there I might get some.They look a little like a chubby version of your Atlas bean seeds. Schwarze Witwe is very pretty too. It almost looks a little bluish.

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This is what the Bis seeds I sowed looked like. They were quite old, kept in a paper bag. The color was heavily oxidized.

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i'm taking a break and resting my back from organizing beans and peas this morning and early afternoon.

i ended up finally getting rid of a bunch of very old pole beans that likely weren't good to begin with freeing up a box of space. the worms will be happy to eat them up.

i also consolidated a bunch of pea containers into one so that freed up even more space and another box is gone.

starting to see the bottom of some piles so it is good to make progress. :)
 

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the title was Black Good Mother Stallard so i'm guessing that might be a reverse that has been selected out from GMS.

Bluejay77 said this: "This is a bean called "Black Good Mother Stallards" The bean was sent to me this year by a woman by the name of Debbie Groat from Rodes, Michigan. She makes jewelery out of bean seed, and she does a beautiful job of it too. Her business is called Saverine Creek Heirlooms . She told me she found this bean among the red seeded bean called "Good Mother Stallard" in 2005. She said it must have been a mutation because it was stable right from the beginning. I grew just a little bit of this bean this summer but will grow it again in 2017."
 

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Bluejay77 said this: "This is a bean called "Black Good Mother Stallards" The bean was sent to me this year by a woman by the name of Debbie Groat from Rodes, Michigan. She makes jewelery out of bean seed, and she does a beautiful job of it too. Her business is called Saverine Creek Heirlooms . She told me she found this bean among the red seeded bean called "Good Mother Stallard" in 2005. She said it must have been a mutation because it was stable right from the beginning. I grew just a little bit of this bean this summer but will grow it again in 2017."

my very first seed swap (almost three years ago) my space was next to Debbie, but she was not at the next year's seed swap [where i met @Bluejay77 and @Zeedman for the first time].

i wonder if they're going to cancel this year's seed swap, but i sure hope not. i'm hoping by then we'll be on the downwards trend of this round of the crud. they've not made any changes to the website yet other than saying they're planning it and to save that date (Feb 27th 11am to 4pm). i'll send a note to say i'm planning on going and to save me a spot.
 

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Yep 4 seeds around each pole. I wonder though if two seeds would give each plant less competition with each other and might they produce as well as 4 seeds planted around each pole. I'm gong to experiment with this idea this coming summer.
Chances are good that the production will be as good as with 4 plants, or very nearly so. You may get larger seeds too, and better pod fill. I've been using wide spacing for beans for years... initially to get better air flow to reduce disease, but it seems to improve seed quality as well.

Beans - especially pole beans - are very good at taking advantage of extra space. About 10 years ago, a ground hog got into my rural garden & decimated some of my beans. As I recall, there were only 3 plants of Kentucky Wonder White 191 left, out of two 10-foot rows. :( The silver lining of that dark cloud was that those remaining, widely-spaced plants were able to display their full potential. The photo below is a single plant:
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Kentucky Wonder White 191. This plant produced nearly one pound of seed.
 

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