2022 Little Easy Bean Network - We Are Beans Without Borders

[meadow]

I plant some of everything and don't find that it matters. I tried selecting for reversals in my Turtle Peas once because the whole plant is prettier, and the resulting growout was not noticeably different. I'm nearly convinced that it's environmental.

This variety has a TON of beans with flipped color schemes some years and almost none this time.

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I've been looking in the old bean threads for discussions about reversals and I think you're right about it being environmental.

Btw, have you ever noticed that descriptions of GaGa Hut trace a lineage to a named source within the Seneca nation, and those for Seneca Allegheny Pinto do not? (or at least not that I've seen)

I take it as: 'This is our bean and it is named GaGa Hut' vs "Here is the bean of those folks over there and it is a pinto-type."

 

[flowerbug]

Had a near disaster with one of my beans. I've been using a weed burner this year...

some people have to show off and pre-cook their beans!

 

[flowerbug]

You know how some varieties throw reversals? When it comes to increasing their seed, do you plant reversals too... or is it better to only plant 'normal' colored seeds?

if the seeds sent to me included reversals i will plant a few with subsequent plantings. no idea the actual mechanism behind it.

i do know that i've had pods that alternated reversals and regular beans in the same pod so it might be some kind of maternal influence on the expression of some genes. that's my guess.

 

[Boilergardener]

Ha! It is Brightstone that caused the question!

I just received them in an order from Adaptive. I'd seen your comments about Brightstone and Early Warwick.

2 of my fav beans. They were the first 2 dry beans i ever grew. I grew 2 others and they molded out in the horrible 2019 rainy summer that 1st year. Those 2 survived. Both from adaptive. This year brightstone outperformed EW i had a low area in the garden that we were going to turn back into grass as it can be very wet or floods if we get 5 inches rain in 2 days. But this year i planted both those in that spot and brightstone handled the flooding decent, EW did not. 1st year in 3 it outperformed early warwick. They are still good beans. Gauk looked good and network natal coffee was good. For apartially white seeded bean this nuns bellybutton bean has very little brown spots on the seed. A pleasant surprise given the wet rainy summer again.

 

[Triffid]

Are White Wax Pink Tip, White Hull Pink Tip, and Pink Tip Half Runner synonyms for the same variety?

 

[Blue-Jay]

This variety has a TON of beans with flipped color schemes some years and almost none this time.


Flowerbug:
if the seeds sent to me included reversals i will plant a few with subsequent plantings. no idea the actual mechanism behind it.

i do know that i've had pods that alternated reversals and regular beans in the same pod so it might be some kind of maternal influence on the expression of some genes. that's my guess.

Well I was very curious about this same phenomenon one year so I wrote to someone who I thought surely had to know. It was a bean breeder at the Unviersity of South Dakota in Fargo. He told me there are two genes that control color. Depends which gene is turned on at the time the bean seed is forming. You can plant all reversals and most of the time you will still get the normal percentage of regular colored seed and reversals.

I was trying to get everyone's comments on this but their software wouldn't let me do it. So all the quotes are kind of hacked up.

 

[meadow]

if the seeds sent to me included reversals i will plant a few with subsequent plantings. no idea the actual mechanism behind it.

i do know that i've had pods that alternated reversals and regular beans in the same pod so it might be some kind of maternal influence on the expression of some genes. that's my guess.

There was an old post by aftermidnight where she was actually trying to get reversals. Even planting all reversals did not result in reversals. I thought what she said was interesting.

 

[heirloomgal]

Intriguing topic! Last year for some unknown reason I had a much higher percentage of reversals than I've ever seen, in all kinds of beans. I wondered what may have caused that, since reversals for me are typically rather rare.

 

[meadow]

2 of my fav beans. They were the first 2 dry beans i ever grew. I grew 2 others and they molded out in the horrible 2019 rainy summer that 1st year. Those 2 survived. Both from adaptive. This year brightstone outperformed EW i had a low area in the garden that we were going to turn back into grass as it can be very wet or floods if we get 5 inches rain in 2 days. But this year i planted both those in that spot and brightstone handled the flooding decent, EW did not. 1st year in 3 it outperformed early warwick. They are still good beans. Gauk looked good and network natal coffee was good. For apartially white seeded bean this nuns bellybutton bean has very little brown spots on the seed. A pleasant surprise given the wet rainy summer again.

That is good information about EW vs Brightstone in super wet conditions. I must say that GaGa Hut handled our wet spring/early summer with flying colors.

I also ordered O'Driscoll, a pole bean, from Adaptive Seeds. It sounds promising for our climate, but I'm also looking for flavor and productivity... so we'll see!

 

[Boilergardener]

That is good information about EW vs Brightstone in super wet conditions. I must say that GaGa Hut handled our wet spring/early summer with flying colors.

I also ordered O'Driscoll, a pole bean, from Adaptive Seeds. It sounds promising for our climate, but I'm also looking for flavor and productivity... so we'll see!

Let us know how the flavor test goes! I need to test more of that