2022 Little Easy Bean Network - We Are Beans Without Borders

[Blue-Jay]

Artorius,

You need to send me your grow out list again very soon. I supposed to leave tomorrow for my brothers house. I can't find old conversations with what you wanted or any emails pertaining to what you wanted to grow out this year. That is the trouble with going away for a long time. I am operating cold right now. I feel like a blind man in the dark.

Please email me your list upadam@comcast.net


I found the conversation with the beans you wanted to grow in 2022. So you can disregard the conversation I posted to you and the above message.

Buddha's Bellybutton
Mt. Pima Plum
Long Eye Black Eye
Bubble Gum
Carmel Delight
plus Coon and beans from Flowerbug.

 

[heirloomgal]

I just noticed this new Rancho Gordo bean from your neck of the woods, @Jack Holloway. Have you heard of it before?

This is one I got last month from the seed exchange! I'm trying to stay away (mostly) from bush beans, but I fell off the wagon with this one. I hope I have some room to try it this year.

 

[Blue-Jay]

@Artorius,

Remember those beans I sent that seemed to disappear Pawnee and Cherry Trout and others. They wound up finally coming back. I'm going put them in your package that I'm going to send to Monika tomorrow.

 

[Artorius]

It's a good news @Bluejay77 . They are not lost. The second kit that you sent to England is already with me.
I sent you a private message about it

 

[Blue-Jay]

t's a good news @Bluejay77 . They are not lost. The second kit that you sent to England is already with me.
I sent you a private message about it

Oh ! I forgot about the second package. Other things to think about I guess. Well you will have another shot of those same beans. LOL. You can grow twice as many of them if you want or give them away to another bean aficionado.

 

[Artorius]

@Bluejay77
More seeds are not a problem for me. They will not be wasted for sure

 

[BeanWonderin]

I am excited for a new growing season and for network beans! It's hard to believe we'll be planting before long - we still have a couple feet of snow on the ground. But we are losing it fast.

Last year we grew Tongues of Fire in bulk and as we've been shelling them out I have come across a few with interesting patterns. I'm setting those aside to plant this year and see if they will produce similar patterns or not.

We have also gotten several reversals, which are fun to find. Sometimes they will be reversals for the whole pod and sometimes alternating within the pod. I'm curious to know the genetics behind this if anyone can point me in the right direction. I would expect the whole pod to be one or the other.

 

[Ridgerunner]

@BeanWonderin I have no idea what is happening genetically with reverses but I'll add this. I often get reverses with a segregation, now stable, that I got from one of the Will Bonsall crosses that I called Jas. I don't get a lot, I get fewer that a half dozen a year. But I always get one or two reverses. These are usually one reverse in a pod, not all of the seeds.

But the beans are not all that reverses, the pods do too. The pods are usually green with purple stripes but occasionally you'll see a pod that is purple with green highlights. The pod being a reverse does not have any effect on whether the bean inside is a reverse. Growing these beans can be fascinating.

And the mandatory photos.

 

[flowerbug]

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We have also gotten several reversals, which are fun to find. Sometimes they will be reversals for the whole pod and sometimes alternating within the pod. I'm curious to know the genetics behind this if anyone can point me in the right direction. I would expect the whole pod to be one or the other.

the beans form from each side of the pod alternating so that is why the common thing to see with reverses or oddities is every other bean being affected. i have seen pods where just one bean has the reverse too, but that is pretty rare. over all reverses don't seem to happen often and planting reverses doesn't seem to give them back in any larger amounts unless you get some kind of crossing or mutation which somehow reinforces that trait.

what is strange to me is that the reverse is supposedly from the mother plant and not the result of the pollination since it is only when you grow the seeds out that you'll see what happened the previous season.

here is one reference which i have not fully digested yet, but it is interesting:

http://arsftfbean.uprm.edu/bic/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/BeanSeedColor.pdf

this one is also good. no, i don't understand it all either:

Molecular and Phenotypic Mapping of Genes Controlling Seed Coat Pattern and Color in Common Bean (Phaseolus vulgaris L.)

Abstract. Common bean (Phaseolus vulgaris L.) exhibits a wide variety of seed coat patterns and colors. From a historical perspective, extensive genetic an

academic.oup.com

 

[Zeedman]

Interesting links, @flowerbug . Having started to decipher one of them & feeling my eyes start to cross, I'll dig into them tomorrow after a couple cups of strong coffee. Potentially useful info, as it relates to bean breeding.