BeanieQueen
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I also could maybe help. I understand somewhat of the Flemish/Dutch language.
2023 Little Easy Bean Network - Beans Beyond The Colors Of A Rainbow
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I think you're right @Bluejay77 . I had a similar thing happen to me recently. I've been e-mailing myself photos because one of my SD cards is not being read by my laptop, so I need to use a different device and send them over. AI stormtroopers didn't like that for some reason, and last Saturday they suspended by email account. My email account is tied to my bank account; nearly all payment I receive from seed requesters is sent to me using my email account and vice versa. It's a very popular way of transferring $ in Canada. Thank goodness my email was eventually un-suspended, but it wasn't a pleasant experience!
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Yes, there was a link someone posted a few pages back (thank you whoever posted that!) and it is a lovely site and attachment to peruse through. There wasn't any one bean in particular that caught my interest. It was sort of all of them.
You just see all these gorgeous beans in his pdf and look to the blurb - from where! what kind! oh my! There may be some function where it could be converted to another format and translated. Mr. Dirix has a lot of historical info on his site too, so he may have some of that written up next to his beans.
nune
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Has anyone seen Ducks4You lately? They haven't been online for three days and I'm a bit worried about a seed swap we did.
Zeedman
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I was gone for 3 days while out of town, and now I'm back. And @ducks4you 's last post was Monday, so don't send out the search dogs just yet. 
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nune
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It says hello! (Yessica's Inca Bean)
Paul G
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Thank you for the offer!
I should receive some network beans within few days. If not, I will definitely contact you.
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I've watched a few Joseph Lofthouse videos lately, and read a little bit too. Some of the material specifically about beans. It's all been rather interesting and none of what he's talking about is familiar to me. I've always come from a preservationist point of view, with an interest in celebrating and keeping alive the wonder of man's work in the world of beans. I've actually had goals quite opposite to his as a gardener, because varietal purity is important to me.
But a couple things I'd be curious to hear people's thought on. He believes all beans, though I imagine he's referring to P.vulgaris in particular, have inbreeding depression. I was very surprised to read this! My initial thought was this seems difficult to imagine since the fertility apparatus of beans is designed to self pollinate? But I wonder if there is something I'm missing to this perspective? According to him, we are unable to properly assess the inbreeding depression because we compare all beans to other inbred beans. Of course, I'm sure anyone who has found a cross in their bean patch sees the vigor with which it grows, but a cross is a relatively rare event. My feeling has been that beans leans toward stability more so than instability naturally.
But a couple things I'd be curious to hear people's thought on. He believes all beans, though I imagine he's referring to P.vulgaris in particular, have inbreeding depression. I was very surprised to read this! My initial thought was this seems difficult to imagine since the fertility apparatus of beans is designed to self pollinate? But I wonder if there is something I'm missing to this perspective? According to him, we are unable to properly assess the inbreeding depression because we compare all beans to other inbred beans. Of course, I'm sure anyone who has found a cross in their bean patch sees the vigor with which it grows, but a cross is a relatively rare event. My feeling has been that beans leans toward stability more so than instability naturally.
Jack Holloway
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I haven't read any of his writings, but it sounds like what he is trying to do is make a landrace, which usually is genetically very diverse. Landraces can adapt to changes in their growing environment by some of the seeds having genes which allow their success. There are pluses and minuses to them. Many believe the pluses outway the minuses.
I am surprised by his statement that beans are inbred. What he might mean is that many varieties of beans have been bottlenecked, meaning they have been rescued from being lost by a single or a few seeds. This causes what genetic diversity in the variety there is, to be lost. of course, over time, with many people growing them, some genetic diversity will return. The flip side of that is growers not roguing out obvious off types from the population. These can occur from mutations or outcrossing, of just plain reverting. One of my frustrations is in canna lilies where the grower isn't roguing out the plain green plants from a variety that is black, or has a great deal of color, or is variegated. I buy the bulbs, and they don't grow true to type.
edited to add: I just realized I've strayed very far from beans.
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