Jack Holloway
Deeply Rooted
@heirloomgal wish I had known you grow scarlet runners, I would have included several packs of seed for you in your seed mailing. Old, so I don't know if they would grow or not. Next shipment for sure!
There is hope! I grew Sunset runner last season from 2017 seed. 100% germination.Old, so I don't know if they would grow or not.
I concur. My seed saving philosophy has been to grow different varieties in a 5-year rotation... and given that 'life happens', that often gets stretched out to 7-8 years. All of the beans, adzuki, cowpeas, and soybeans I grew last year were 5-7 years old, and even having been stored at room temperature (in freezer bags), most still had good to very good germination. Started in pots & given a little TLC, I have yet to completely lose any Phaseolus or Vigna bean, even after 8-10 years of storage.There is hope! I grew Sunset runner last season from 2017 seed. 100% germination.
[and it was not refrigerated seed or anything either]
... Sadly, I've lost a few. I'm getting ready to germination test all of my soybeans again, and anticipate having to use rescue protocols for at least a few varieties every year now, as my collection ages. The good news is that (most of) the old seed seems to respond well to being started in pots with TLC; both of the 2022 rescues (Bei 77-6177 & Sapporo Midori) had 0% germination in-ground in 2021, but had 40-50% germination in pots.
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Your photos of the P. Coccineus above are just gorgeous. Love that comparison shot with Passage To India.
Those look better than mine! I'm really borderline for runner beans, they often don't fill out for me as well as they do in cooler climates. But I'm glad I live in a "Goldilocks zone" where I am just cool enough to succeed with runner beans, and just warm enough to succeed with limas. The jury is still out on favas, maybe I'll find out this year.I tried my best to capture the gorgeousness of these big ol' seeds; my device struggles with both dark seeds and certain fabrics bounce the light differently than others (and in some cases absorp up all the light and drain the photo). If I had spent more time fussing I could have gotten some better pictures but I was pressed for time. I'm just gonna do a big photo dump and hope some of these evoke the bean in the flesh.
From farther away, looks much smaller than it is
A bit closer - river pebbles!
I put Bluejay's 'Passage to India' beside to show how similar they look, and how different the sizes are! If they were both P.vulgaris you'd think they're related!
The "rescue protocol" is creating ideal conditions for germination. For most beans, that just involves planting in pots with sterile seed starter, then bottom-soaking the pots over-night in a sterile low-N solution. That solution could be a teaspoon of liquid plant food per gallon (I sometimes use DW's liquid houseplant food) or an organic equivalent. If using an organic fertilizer, unless it is labeled as sterile, it is best to boil & then cool the solution. After soaking over-night, I pour off any excess liquid (saving that for any additional trays) then place the tray(s) in a lighted, climate-controlled chamber that I constructed from a folding greenhouse, maintained at 80 degrees F. Although this method will improve germination for most garden vegetables, beans really respond to it. A yardlong bean that once gave me 0% germination in ground, gave me close to 60% using the rescue protocols... and that was from shrunken, immature seed.please elaborate on the rescue protocols...