a Quiet Place to Study

[seedcorn]

Don't get me started on parents....... My son teaches in KY, the teachers pay for clothes, food, etc because some of these "parents" won't even supply basics of life! He has one child that they feed in AM till he can't eat any more, starved by lunch time and he is suppose to teach him when all he can think about is food. Teachers, cooks, administration send him home with food. They also run a clothing department to make sure these kids have proper clothes to protect them from elements.

Moron politicians with their "no child left behind" should be sent on cruise with these parents--then sink the ship!

End of rant, now back to previous discussion, yes, great to have quiet place to study. I had to do it with Mom looking over my shoulder-child abuse......

 

[897tgigvib]

A competency test before being allowed to breed! I love that one!!!

That'd sure reduce the population!

I think the bigfoots should run the testing! They've learned how to keep their population waaaaayyy down.

Some folks would never pass! Heck, it'd probably increase the average human brain size and intelligence too.

 

[Jared77]

We went to our rooms or the kitchen table. Just how it was. TV was in the basement (that was partially finished) so it wasn't a distraction. Usually the kitchen table was there for when you needed help so Mom or Dad could sit next to you and help.

Its not an intelligence test what we need to administer is a selfish test. Are you willing to skip watching your favorite show to help your child work on their math homework? Are you willing to stop smoking or not buy beer so you have extra grocery money so your kids are not hungry? Sell the toy (motorcycle, boat, snowmobile, etc) so you have money to put braces on your kid? Just to name a few things. Seriously if your not going to care, then take the steps to not have kids.

In nature we see countless stories of parents defending their young putting them in the best possible situations so they can survive and live. Yet as humans too often we expect others to do this. We blame TV, movies, teachers, music, schools, drugs, gangs, medical conditions, the state, anything to avoid taking responsibility for our children.

No child left behind isn't a bad idea in theory but until you go in and assess the situation of the starving child your only putting a band aid over the problem. Sure you got them fed, but why is he starving?

How many parents are going through their kids homework and seeing how they are doing? Making sure they study? Being involved? If your not going to be involved then don't have kids. Simple as that. IUDs are good for 5 years. Takes just a few minutes to place one. Its that simple.

Here's a crazy idea, what about giving a tax incentive to women and families below a certain income who are willing to get proof from their medical care provider saying they are on certain types of birth control? Depo injection, or IUDs for example? Something that is proven effective, and is not something that is required to be taken daily? Its not a punishment its an incentive since it would be cheaper to give an incentive than it would be to pay for the birth of a child, and the cost of assisting to raise that child.

But then that's just me.

 

[seedcorn]

Jared, agree with your thoughts except "no child left behind" is bad in practice and theory. Doomed for failure and is. We are graduating kids who can't read or write but you have to pass them on because you don't want to hurt their feelings................. If they are 18 still in first grade, SO BE IT! I'm tired of passing out HS diploma's like they are breath mints. END OF RANT!

ps, I would donate towards sterilizing (either through drugs as you indicate or neuter them) people that don't have the willingness to take care of their children. Agree that's an attitude not a $$ issue so I would allow any financial group qualify.

 

[digitS']

We should probably be careful about what we assume parents can & should do for children. My father never went to high school and Mom only had one year. They were not able to help a high school junior with his home work.

Also, values. There are good, decent people in the world who think that Americans are only interested in their possessions. They'd be mistaken but everyone's values are different. I have new neighbors. They've got a couple of kids and the whole family went off to help grandmother pack and move - on a school day!!

As best as I can tell, they are of northern European stock just as I am, except for the American Indian. For that matter, that 19th century idea that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" -- if Phil Sheridan had his way with that, along with a whole heck of a lot of European Americans, I'd never have been born!

Steve

 

[Jared77]

I don't know if that's the spirit of No Child Left Behind. Maybe I misunderstood it, I thought the goal was to try to raise the minimum standard of education?

Steve I understand what your saying and I didn't mean to sound like I was down on anybody's education or lack of.

However they could find you the help you need if they can't help you. A tutor, a study group, perhaps? Maybe its something as simple as making sure they are there to pick you up if you stay after class for help the teacher. There are options. Its being involved and making sure if they need help they are getting it. Be it from the parent or another source. That's much more important than letting a child struggle at the kitchen table and the parents throwing up their hands because they don't get it either and walking away.

I'm sorry if I didn't convey that in my original post.

 

[digitS']

Jared, I'm trying to remember who I read about recently, the son of Italian immigrants.

He was a well-educated, accomplished man and he said that his parents were just very poor people. He recounted asking his father why he thought things would be better for him in America. He didn't speak English, had no special skills and must have realized that it would be very difficult, even a struggle, for him and his wife.

The father said that he really didn't know but he thought it would be better for his children and give them more of an opportunity in life. It turned out that way and gives one an idea of what good parents are willing to do for their families.

Steve