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ducks4you

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SO STUPID!!
Nursey's HERE sold Callary Pear Trees, SUPER invasive, and, like @Zeedman said, water spinach will certainly die out where I live, which is one zone warmer than Zeedman and Certainly warmer than @heirloomgal .
On Mid American Gardener, the retired manager of a local nursery talked about selling them some 30 years ago, and showed an aerial photo of his neighbor's property, next to a regularly tilled farm field, the tilling which has kept this tree from progressing more than 5 acres worth.
He said:
they are messy
they have wicked thorns
they reproduce themselves bc there are no native predators that eat on them
Gee whiz!
I Guess constant tilling keeps them from reproducing successfully.
Do they think that somebody is going to dig up water spinach, transplant it in their southern zone yard and let them go to seed?!?!?
I don't think, since burning bushes are still sold regularly, that American gardeners are going to give up their love of non native species.
I guess we need a black market.
 

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SO STUPID!!
Nursey's HERE sold Callary Pear Trees, SUPER invasive, and, like @Zeedman said, water spinach will certainly die out where I live, which is one zone warmer than Zeedman and Certainly warmer than @heirloomgal .
On Mid American Gardener, the retired manager of a local nursery talked about selling them some 30 years ago, and showed an aerial photo of his neighbor's property, next to a regularly tilled farm field, the tilling which has kept this tree from progressing more than 5 acres worth.
He said:
they are messy
they have wicked thorns
they reproduce themselves bc there are no native predators that eat on them
Gee whiz!
I Guess constant tilling keeps them from reproducing successfully.
Do they think that somebody is going to dig up water spinach, transplant it in their southern zone yard and let them go to seed?!?!?
I don't think, since burning bushes are still sold regularly, that American gardeners are going to give up their love of non native species.
I guess we need a black market.
So true @ducks4you , invasiveness it's all relative to where we live. Some people really worry about the invasiveness of morning glories or chufa nuts, I have no issues with them. My Chinese Lantern plants, which I had for over a decade, never even got invasive and in some places they really will take over. When you dig deep into the invasive species awareness groups and their literature, you realize quickly that it isn't really invasive plants vs native plants it's about invasives we like/invasive we don't like.

I was once speaking with this young lady at a seed swap who had a table with invasive species handouts and such. I mentioned to her I was surprised to see dandelions were not on their invasive list? She looked at me with authentic puzzlement, and said.....'oh, we only really focus on ones that give us problems'. The poor dear. :lol:
 
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I am too. You can also get water spinach seed from Agrohaitai... I think? They have a link, but won't even open it for me because of my location.
I looked a little closer at the packet so see if there was any specificity like you mentioned, but L.P.1 is all I can see.
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Finally sat down tonight to knock out a tomato list for the year. Sooo many to choose from! 🤔 I still have a couple rare-ish Russian & Eastern European varieties to grow out that I got from last year, so those were priority 1. Anything that I could find wasn't being offered online went into the grow pile, and then I started adding what else I might want to try that is out there. I might have to alter this list based on what space there is....but all the mini dwarfs will go in the greenhouse.

Cherry Tomatoes:
Ida Gold
Koralik
Malchik S Palchik
Gru Vee
Yellow Submarine
Evil Olive
Pink Champagne
Mexico Midget/Matt's Wild

Paste Tomatoes:
Royal Finger
Prairie Fire
Drova
Olesya (orange paste)
Marmelad Oranzhevyi

Early Reds & Pinks: (not all of these are likely to germinate)
Tatar of Mongolstan
Brookpact
Alpha
Volgogradskiy
Picket
Norderas Busk
Pozhar
Pitice
Edelrot
Kanner Hoell
Pusa Ruby (from India!)
Northern Delight
Patio King
Alpine Tomato
Aurora
Praleska
Plamya
Turboreactivnyi
Spiridonovskie
Lyana Rozowy
Katja
Geyser
Alenka
Supergonets
Minskiy Ranniy
Brunello
Lucky Leprechaun
Malinovka

Mini Dwarfs:
Fat Frog
Groovy Tunes
Window Box Red
Snegirjok
Pinocchio Red
Geranium Kiss
Andrina
Birdie Rouge
Bonsai
Lille Lise
Little Red Riding Hood
Micro Tina
Moment
Pigmy

Longkeepers:
Ruby Treasure
Winter Gold Keeper
Mystery Keeper
Giallo a Grappoli
Piennolo del Vesuvio

Might do some green beefsteaks as I've accumulated so many, but.....gotta find room!

Well, that was a lot of fun. I had to research a lot of those as I went through to see what they were. Half the fun of gardening is the ANTICIPATION!! 🤪

Here we go to-ma-to!!!! 🎢
Can you believe it, it's nearly planting time!
 

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