A Tree Fell

897tgigvib

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Yesterday before dark, here in the lakeside campsites area, I heard a loud *Snap*, the sound of a branch or tree falling through branches, followed by a double *thud* while I was on the porch smoking. I tried to follow the direction of it and to look around to try to find it. One of my jobs is to make sure everyone's camp is ok or to report damage caused by a tree fall or the like. In this case, I could not find it. One good thing is that I did not hear any metallic sound. A metallic sound during a tree fall is always a bad sign. That would mean that for sure a shed or trailer got hit. There was no metallic sound. Just the pop, rushing branches, and double thud sounds, which usually means a ground hit.

That snap or loud pop sound means a branch or trunk broke. The rushing sound always happens with any kind of fall of a tree or branch, especially from up high, and the doubling of the thud means it was either a very odd shaped tree or branch or two trees or a branch and a tree. Sometimes you see, when one tree or large branch goes down it can take another one down. Domino effect. (Domino effect falls have been known to take down 11 trees at once. I've seen it do 9 trees, three years ago almost exactly.)

We have a lot of Oak trees among the mostly Fir trees in this part of the forest, and some Pines and Madrones. Madrones rarely fall, but when they do it is by their roots and all if it was on a small cliff and erosion worked it loose. Pines rarely fall, but when they do it is huge and is caused by borers. We take them down well in advance when we see the signs of one becoming a hazard.

Fir trees might come down for the same reason, or sometimes they fall when they are skinny and old, what the forest rangers call "pecker poles". Those are the ones I cut down for safety and for the good of the forest health. Those skinny old ones take nutrients and moisture from the health of the better trees. When one of them goes down it's usually just a *slap* sound.

It is the Oak trees that are having serious troubles here. SUDDEN OAK DEATH SYNDROME. It had been going on since the 1990's, and took until around 2006 for the botanists to decide for sure the cause is PHYTOTHPHERA...spelling... fungus. This is a similar fungus to what gets other plants. It appears to come and go in 300 year cycles.

The sound of an Oak suddenly dying is often a pop or snap sound.

The fungus causes the oak to become hollow. By itself, that does not kill the tree. Actually, if the tree could be supported, it would not die from it at all. With the hollow trunk and branches though, the tree is weakened.

Then what happens is the hollow space can fill with water. Very heavy. Then it breaks. Suddenly, with a *POP* sound.

The result is a down Oak tree, and there is a very definite aroma. For those who have never smelled freshly cut Oak wood, it is a musty aroma, very earthy. When just a little bit is smelled, it can be a nice fresh smell. But when you are right near it, the aroma can be strong. A low and deep pungent smell.

This is what I have to do this morning. I have to find it if it actually is in our area. I suppose it could be up on Orchid Hill. Mostly I have to see if any camp was damaged and photo and report it.
 

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I hope it was not on your property so someone else gets to do the clean up :) My DH alwys refered to Oak as P*ss Wood. He does not like the smell. :rolleyes:
 

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My next door neighbor in Cal. had a centuries old Valley Oak tree in their front pasture. Trunk was a good 4 feet in diameter and the canopy was very symetrical. Then one Sunday morning around 11:00 am in mid June 7 years ago, this tree decided to jump about 10 feet from its birth site. A huge B O O M and a mushroom cloud appeared over it. :ep All of the neighbors and I whent to see the fallen Oak, what we saw was this tree had only 3 inches of wood around it's circumference with the entire center totally gone as if it never ever had it. No rotten wood or saw dust, nothing ! It's roots were about 1 ft. in diameter and also hollow. :idunno
 

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Carol Dee said:
I hope it was not on your property so someone else gets to do the clean up :) My DH alwys refered to Oak as P*ss Wood. He does not like the smell. :rolleyes:
Different varieties of oak must have different odors. We used to burn wood from Live Oak and the wood didn't smell bad at all, and the smoke smelled nice. But sometimes we would get oak pallets to cut up and burn and they reeked.
 

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I am told we actually have 11 kinds of Oak around here. Authority that told me knows very little plant stuff, but I think that number is close.

The Oaks in our denser part of the forest is called by the locals Tan Oak. At the edges of the denser forests, more near the Manzanita areas are the beautiful and rugged Chapparall Live Oak. These old trees appear in circles. Young ones appear single or in pairs or threes. See, what happens with these chapparall live oak is, a trunk lives and grows slowly for a couple hundred years, then it slowly dies. As it dies, a new trunk or 2 or 3 new trunks appear at it's base. It's the same plant. A couple hundred years later again, 2 or 3 form around those as they die. It begins to grow in a ring, a circle, 5 or 8 feet in diameter.

There are some rings of live oak that the continuousness of the ring is gone. You look around, and then realize, you may be standing in the middle of a 50 foot wide ring of Live Oak, all of which sprouted from one acorn...how long ago???

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I found it. The fallen Oak was a foot around at the base and rotten at the top. It was in one of the camper's campsites, and very luckily missed 3 structures by inches.
 

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So who's the resident TEG oak expert? I've got at least 3 kinds in my yard and have wondered what they are.
 

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Ridgerunner said:
Not me for sure, but if you can show some leaves, bark, and acorns I bet someone will figure it out.
Nor I... but I would add that a pic of the tree from a distance to show it's growth habit is also helpful.
 

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Thats interesting marshall. We have mostly large oak on our property, with many little beech and birch in-between. Many have the hollow center. I never really knew why. Now I know! It is such a shame to see a big beautiful oak with a rotted center. You know what will be happening to it soon. Although, the porcupines do love to climb inside and live there. :rolleyes:
 

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