A Way to Really Mess Things Up

[digitS']

I hadn't really thought to post this here but I've been reading about what one might call human ecology this morning. It didn't start out that way. I thought I was reading about landscapes and "a sense of place." Came across something by a forest guy who works and writes about range management but he's written about that "sense of the wild" in landscaping.

@Nyboy prompts me to go back to what Pope Francis has said about human dignity. What does he mean??

Here's what I think he means: "the concept of dignity to express the idea that a being has an innate right to be valued and to receive ethical treatment." That was as easy as looking in Wikipedia so I don't think I've gotten very far into it . But, Francis also talks about the Earth being on loan from our children and grandchildren.

There is some depth to all of this. I'm tempted to look at how some folks have tried to put our human ideas about these things together. There is a danger of thinking about people as simply organisms but we are people too! We have more responsibility than that.

Steve

 

[bobm]

This is a great article concerning the ecosystem in Yellowstone .


http://www.popsci.com/article/science/have-wolves-really-saved-yellowstone

The problem with the large elk population in Yellowstone is NOT the absence of wolves, but the NO HUNTING policies . Instead of introducing the killer wolves we should NOT listen to the so called "environmentalists" but allow enough human hunting in the parks to once again reach the carrying capacity of the land to restore the balance of elk, deer, moose, and buffalo and the vegetation which in turn will allow the willows to thrive once again and the beaver numbers will return. Also, the meat from the game animals provide food to the hunters' families. The idiotic notion of returning wolves to the area and that they will stay there is pure nonsense as they have already spread to other States and are causing much danger to people ( just one example: My own uncle's 15 year old son was torn to shreds and eaten by a pack of wolves on his way to school in N. Europe ) and predation of livestock which in turn causes economic harm. It is now the right time to establish an open season on the wolves to control their numbers and dangerous spread to new areas.

 

[bobm]

As a roman Catholic I have to say Pope Francis is one of the best Pope in a long time.

I too am a Roman Catholic. One of my uncles was a priest who was stationed in the Vatican after WW2, then was assigned and taught at a Catholic University in the US. One of my Aunts was a Mother Superior in Chicago as well as taught at a Catholic University . My wife's cousin was a nun, after she left the order, she was elected a member of Minn. State legislature. So, I just may have an inkling of the inner workings of the church. This Pope is humble and has great charisma to the people , however I strongly disagree with your assessment of this Pope.

 

[Smart Red]

Pope Francis is a breath of fresh air in the Catholic community, but we are in his early times yet. Yes, he has greatly increased the attendance at his St. Peter's events. Yes, he has opened discussion into the previously taboo topics of birth control, homosexuality, and other changing social mores. Yes, he has set into effect decentralizing the power centered in Rome with the thought that spreading the power throughout the world will help to end the "absolute power" of corruption that has firmly rooted itself in the Vatican. Yes, to a world where most people have known only these three popes, his stature, humility, and charisma has drawn favorable attention to the Church and has brought some Catholics back -- if only to test the waters of their faith.
But. . . .

There is much that needs doing in the hierarchy of the Vatican before the Church and the man are of one accord. First and foremost, Pope Francis is faithful to the teachings of his Church. To expect that any of his edicts as Pope will run counter to these faith-based beliefs is foolish.

A great man is this pope so far. A saintly man if what we see is truth. A humble, caring father is the way we see him attending to his worldly congregation. But he is just one and he is just a man. I can pray for him and support his works while I wait with the rest of the world to see what happens. Only then can I say with certainty that Pope Francis, one of the best of men is also the best of popes.

 

[Nyboy]

Well said Red!!

 

[Smart Red]

 

[NwMtGardener]

Wow, impressive. We've hit on some of the most controversial subjects I can think of - human dignity, WOLVES, and religion - in one simple thread titled "A way to really mess things up." Congratulations @digitS' !

 

[Nyboy]

 

[valley ranch]

Vivat John Paul II




bobm, I am in full agreement with you last post, concerning Yellowstone. Can you say in northern Europe?

Richard

 

[baymule]

Wow, impressive. We've hit on some of the most controversial subjects I can think of - human dignity, WOLVES, and religion - in one simple thread titled "A way to really mess things up." Congratulations @digitS' !

Quick! Let's talk politics too!!! How 'bout them Dems and Repubs?