TheSeedObsesser
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"Healthiest meat ever produced in America?" That was so funny that I forgot to laugh. Here's one video, I don't consider it worth the effort to post more.
Are we a GMO or what ?
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TheSeedObsesser
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Lol, yeah.... OK.
valley ranch
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America once had the the advantage of CLEAN, SAFE, WHOLESOME FOOD. Now the government is much in control of the Petrochemical Industry, growing/producing in a clean natural manner is suspect. Those who try to produce food properly are leaned on.
That's not just a shame it's criminal.
That's not just a shame it's criminal.
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seedcorn
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Curious, how many are old enough to remember all the food recalls in the 60's? Until federal government stepped in.
Who worked with hogs in 70's and experienced lice, atrophic rhinitis with hogs raised outside-along with all the respiratory diseases, trichinosis from being raised on pastures? And all the normal spring diseases? Pork had to be cooked to death to kill all potential microbes. The things we forget.
Who worked with hogs in 70's and experienced lice, atrophic rhinitis with hogs raised outside-along with all the respiratory diseases, trichinosis from being raised on pastures? And all the normal spring diseases? Pork had to be cooked to death to kill all potential microbes. The things we forget.
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Still more curious that food poisoning was almost unheard of, and yes there are a lot of recalls.
It was sad to hear an employ of AG, saying "he could care less what we eat." and showing such contempt for those who want "no chemicals in their food". One can imagine what you say and do while working.
You work for the Department of Agriculture,right? From what you've said, you believe, Organic is not good and those who believe in growing that way are fear mongers ,from what you've posted.
Well, seedcorn, It's a shame you're not on our side, it's not just a Shame.
Wishing you the very best.
Richard
It was sad to hear an employ of AG, saying "he could care less what we eat." and showing such contempt for those who want "no chemicals in their food". One can imagine what you say and do while working.
You work for the Department of Agriculture,right? From what you've said, you believe, Organic is not good and those who believe in growing that way are fear mongers ,from what you've posted.
Well, seedcorn, It's a shame you're not on our side, it's not just a Shame.
Wishing you the very best.
Richard
Hennible
Chillin' In The Garden
I would like to thank everyone who posted on this thread for making me think, and do some reading... as you can probably see from the likes I started out anti GMO, but after some reading all I know is I need to read even more to really understand the topic... I think there could be benefits to GMO (I always thought that) and I think there are benefits to being cautious as we move forward, we should preserve non GMO lines and see where GMO can lead at the same time... perhaps its a dangerous path, but nothing ventured nothing gained... I think we all could look at both sides more often, and let go of any extremist opinions we hold in the hope of keeping an open mind and moving humanity forward... I'm not going to stop buying GMO free products when I have the choice, I think the labelling of GMOs could have benefits and draw backs, I'm still going to grow heirlooms and organics... mostly I am going to read more of both sides...
seedcorn
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No, I'm not a government employee-I work for a living.
I believe in free choice. Anyone can ingest anything they want (that is legal). I do not want to controll anyone-eat organic, GMO whatever.
I am against false advertising, scare tactics. I point out fear tactics and some get upset with me. I also try to refute false claims against AG and explain when they do what they do. My problem with organic is simple-consumer is paying for organic but not getting it. Did you know in by laws of organic you can use GMO seed? Read them. Know what you are paying for.
In commercial AG we are always checking each other and reporting violations. Why doesn't organic? I know of organic eggs being sold in east that are fed GMO corn/beans-organic community is also aware of it.
I believe in free choice. Anyone can ingest anything they want (that is legal). I do not want to controll anyone-eat organic, GMO whatever.
I am against false advertising, scare tactics. I point out fear tactics and some get upset with me. I also try to refute false claims against AG and explain when they do what they do. My problem with organic is simple-consumer is paying for organic but not getting it. Did you know in by laws of organic you can use GMO seed? Read them. Know what you are paying for.
In commercial AG we are always checking each other and reporting violations. Why doesn't organic? I know of organic eggs being sold in east that are fed GMO corn/beans-organic community is also aware of it.
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Hennible
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And its that lack of truth that has led me to grow as much as I can, to raise my own meat and eggs (my chickens/ducks eat non-organic feed because the organic soy that goes in the chicken feed I can get is only grown in China, and that's not very environmental of me is it? getting feed for my chickens all the way from China, which is as seed corn said probably still GMO)...
seedcorn
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Corn from China/India is probably non-GMO, just may not be organic.
By raising your own or buying from trusted sources, you will get what you want. Eat what you want.
I raise what I want for a variety of reasons one being I hate the flavor of commercial tomatoes. Varieties I like won't ship. I just do it and don't blame the producer and insinuate things about them.
By raising your own or buying from trusted sources, you will get what you want. Eat what you want.
I raise what I want for a variety of reasons one being I hate the flavor of commercial tomatoes. Varieties I like won't ship. I just do it and don't blame the producer and insinuate things about them.
