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You are getting a very small taste of why organic farming will not feed the world. (Couldn’t help myself from getting on soap box.)
Organic farming did feed the world for thousands of years. :plbb
u do realize how many died of starvation or nutrient dificiencies? So it never worked, it kept humans & animals alive. Now we r over weight from too much food.. from one extreme to another
 

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u do realize how many died of starvation or nutrient dificiencies? So it never worked, it kept humans & animals alive. Now we r over weight from too much food.. from one extreme to another

Interesting. My grandparents, great grandparents, their parents, and those who came before lived to extreme old ages in excellent health, eating home-grown real food.

In recent times here in the USA alone, mortality rates have risen steeply thanks to a diet of non-organic GM junk food liberally laced with high fructose corn syrup which has spawned the current diabetic/obesity epidemic. The "Big Food Industry" exists to make money. It has no interest in the health of the populace, the health of ill treated farm animals, or the health of the planet. "Big Food" may purport to feed the world, but it has little effect on the food insecurity and poverty which are rampant in this country alone right now.
 
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I CANNOT PULLL WEEDS ON 25 ACRES.
This is painful to me, but it’s what I have to do. So if all anybody has to say is blather about the bad poisons, just shutup. I already know that. This land has been over grazed, used, nothing put back, for 3 generations. It’s going to take a LOT of work to get it to where I want it. I may not want to, but that’s what it’s going to take to get this place cleaned up.

I get what you're saying, but is there any way that you can mow those acres? This was how we managed to reclaim our pasture land. Our horses never ate certain noxious weeds, and as they aged they ignored these weeds even more. Back in the day we had no means to mow our land so the weeds grew up. Finally when home brush clearing machinery hit the market, we bought a DR mower and turned our scrub weed land back into healthy mixed pasture. All it took was cutting down the burdocks, poison parsnips, et al for the clover, bluegrass and other more desirable plants to grow back. Obviously 25 acres is a far bigger challenge than my 2 acres of open land, but still it was remarkable what a difference a "haircut" made to the health of our pasture.
 

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Yes I mow, it helps but doesn’t rid the problem. Plus there are so many different plants that grow at different times, it would take a lot of mowing, often, to cut them all.

I talked to a young man this evening about hay, he uses Grazon. He told me his spray schedule and I’ll follow what he does. He sprays after the clover is done.

For years, this property has been mowed only. It’s infested with downright horrible weeds. I’m going to spray them and mow.
 

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With rhizome weeds, mowing is useless. With annuals, once to seed, u have infected ground for decades. (Allowing noxious weeds to grow is against the law. I go nuts when I see pastures infected with thistles and other pests-dang hobby farmers polluting country side with weeds as wind carries seed for miles.)

Yes, any Local fertilizer plant should have urea and urea sulfate. For a slight charge they will evenly spread it. The one I pester, will pull and run soil samples for free if u buy product from them.

Check longevity of life for humans, we are now living longer than ever.... fried, greasy food has never been good for the body but what do people want and buy? Don’t blame AG for their poor choices. (It’s always someone else’s fault for our terrible decisions.)
 
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fried, greasy food has never been good for the body but what do people want and buy? Don’t blame AG for their poor choices.
Those of us who consume organically grown foods are the least likely segment of the population to be eating fried junk foods, and the most likely to enjoy good health.

As to current mortality rates in the USA, this is a good article:
The Sad State of US Life Expectancy
 
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@baymule sorry to derail your thread. I would like to just make one comment about food. Lack of education and one's own neglect for self education is more to blame in my own opinion. I worked in the medical filed for 15 years and I have seen so many parents give their children sodas and sweet tea when the child had diarrhea because the grandparents said that would help them. I would calmly have a conversation about caffeine, sugar and ect. Few parents were so shocked at what I told them, they called up the grandparents and yelled at them.
It is so sad.
 

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Anybody who wants to can detail my thread. Sometimes interesting subjects come up and it warrants discussion.

AG is not responsible for fat, diseased people. Junk food and not wanting to actually prepare and cook healthy food takes much of the blame. No exercise, overeating junk, keeps the hospitals and pharmaceuticals in business.
With rhizome weeds, mowing is useless. With annuals, once to seed, u have infected ground for decades. (Allowing noxious weeds to grow is against the law. I go nuts when I see pastures infected with thistles and other pests-dang hobby farmers polluting country side with weeds as wind carries seed for miles.)

Don’t blame AG for their poor choices. (It’s always someone else’s fault for our terrible decisions.)
Yes. Previous owner mowed in fall. Seed bank is well stocked, it will take me a long time to clean it up.

Baymule at the Pearly Gates….
Saint Peter; What did you do in retirement to benefit others?
Baymule; I became a farmer.
Saint Peter; Come right in my dear! We have a garden that needs weeding!
 
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