Covid

[seedcorn]

If masks worked (which you said your dad wore faithfully) he should have been safe. To compare drunk driving to this, is apples and computers-not related.

To segregate the sick (no matter what disease), makes complete sense. To segregate the healthy is asking for problems. As a kid, we segregated people with measles, chicken pox, flus, etc..... I would support taking a temp test. If you have a fever, no admittance, stay home.

 

[baymule]

@TwinCitiesPanda I am so sorry. I had the privilege of being with both of my parents when they passed away. I had the privilege of planning and attending their funerals. Funerals are for the living, to give us that very special time to grieve. To be denied that is truly an empty, hollow feeling with nowhere to go with our grief. My sister's husband died recently, no funeral, no memorial, no nothing. Just gone.

I was a Daddy's girl, I can relate to your toilet story. My husband will ask me, How do you know that? My Daddy taught me.

I am so sorry that you have been denied the most basic of human rituals, that of saying goodbye to loved ones. Yes, it will take time for you to grapple with this, please use this forum to vent, scream, cry or just be sad. We are here for you. We might be a poor substitute for family, but we will listen.

 

[Rhodie Ranch]

I live in Southern Oregon. Can I call your bro for you?

 

[TwinCitiesPanda]

I live in Southern Oregon. Can I call your bro for you?

I really appreciate the offer. We have been in contact quite a bit since dad passed. Its hard to talk about over the phone really. We don’t like to cry at each other so we chat about his daughter, the news, and send each other funny internet pictures. I think some of our healing will be delayed until we can be together in person. It’s hard not knowing when that can be. I have to travel for work a lot (lots of potential for exposure) and he is immunosuppressed, so it will likely be a long time.
Truly though, I appreciate the offer.

 

[flowerbug]

I lost my dad and grandmother last month. Grandma was 92, dad 62. Dad was grandmas primary caregiver, lived next door, and was so careful to try and keep them both safe. He retired to avoid the exposure (worked at a casino) and started ordering groceries delivered, disinfecting them, stopped trips to the hardware store, wore a mask when he had to go out. He temporarily rented another unit in their retirement park for himself because my mother in law has been working this whole time (works with the public, a lot of exposure). They lived in AZ- where the spread has been bad. Still no clue how they got it, and I guess it really doesn’t matter. Grandma passed away, alone in the hospital, two days before dad was admitted. I know he blamed himself until he passed. He texted me goodbye before he went on a ventilator- which kept him going less than a day. No funerals to attend. I can’t help my mother in law with all that needs to be done when someone passes. I haven’t been able to hug my brother who lives in OR or process it with anyone. I’ve spent a lot of time poking around outside trying to find a little peace. It hurts every time I snap a photo I would have sent to him or see something cool outside. I cried like a child while replacing my toilet last week because dad taught me to be handy and was always proud of me for doing things myself. Time will help I’m told. I think it’s gonna be a long while before I’m me again.

so sorry to hear about your Grandma and Dad

 

[TwinCitiesPanda]

You are missing the point. Wearing a mask does not keep YOU safe, it keeps you from breathing, coughing or sneezing the virus on OTHERS. She was using the analogy of drunk driving to compare the point of one not having the right to put others at risk. Not trying to turn this in to a war about masks, just explaining it so even you can understand. You are a bonehead, ya' know. And yes you are right about segregating the sick, the problem is that people are contagious before even knowing that they are sick. That's why the masks. And just so you know, I hate them too, the paper ones have something on/in them that makes me react to whatever chemical is in them. So I have to wear the washable cloth ones. They are not pleasant, I have a strong immune system, DH already has had the mess and I didn't get it, so why do I have to wear a mask? Because I don't ever want to unknowingly carry the virus to anyone else and them be sick or die as a result of my actions.

I know you feel strongly about being mandated to wear those confounded masks, but this was not the post to express those feelings. She is telling us that she just lost her father and grandma and you want to gripe about masks. You put both feet in your mouth on this one. This would be a good time to tell her you are sorry that she lost her beloved grandma and dad. If I did not care about you, I would remain silent on this one. For all your grouchiness, I know you to be a caring person and you don't want to cause hurt to someone who is already hurting.

I appreciate the support on a very deep level. I also understand that the person who previously called me panicked and hysterical over my concern for family in the face of this virus is committed to their stance regardless of the effect on others. It’s a logical conclusion that someone unwilling to wear a mask to save the lives of others doesn’t care when others die.

I’d rather focus on everyone who was supportive, kind, empathetic, human. The world needs more of that. Thank you and please keep being good humans even when it’s hard. I think it’s best for me to look elsewhere for an online community for now. Maybe I’ll be back around next spring. New year, new garden, and a fresh start. Be well you gardening experts.

 

[baymule]

@TwinCitiesPanda I am sorry for your situation. This virus is a cruel enemy. I hope that you come back here in the spring, we will miss you while you are away.

 

[digitS']

To know yourself as the being underneath the thinker, the stillness underneath the mental noise, the love and joy underneath the pain, is freedom, salvation, enlightenment. ~ Eckhart Tolle

 

[baymule]

@Carol Dee I was reading an article on how Covid is spiking across the midwest and how per capita, Iowa is leading in Covid cases. Do you ever use Elderberry for flu season? I make elderberry syrup each year to help ward off the flu. We went elderberry picking last week and I have my berries in the freezer. I'll be making Elderberry syrup this week. I also keep a bag or two of dry elderberries that I get from Amazon. Elderberries keep flu and cold virus from replicating, meaning that you may get sick, but the elderberry syrup keeps the virus from making more of itself and it quickly dies out. The severity of the case and length can be greatly lessened.

I posted information on the Elderberry thread and a recipe for making the syrup. Take it along with Zinc and Selenium. We take this in the fall and winter and it keeps us from getting sick. Last year, we didn't go picking, I didn't make elderberry syrup and in late January of this year, BJ got extremely sick. Our DD and grand daughters were sick and we kept the little girls, so that's where it came from. We figure it was Covid-19.

There is an upsurge of interest in elderberry this year. On various forums more people are talking about it and I have read more articles on elderberry. You might even want to add elderberry plants to your oasis of a back yard for next year. They have beautiful showy blooms and make a tall, handsome plant.

How to find & plant and elderflower

The season to pick elderflower to make cordial is over here. But is it possible to find this shrub or tree take a cutting to grow? Plus contain it, so it doesn't take over my garden. I just love the taste of elderflower cordial. :)

www.theeasygarden.com

 

[Marie2020]

I read on the new that there's another lockdown predicted here soon. I'm getting used to it now.