Grapes!!!!!!!!!

Greensage45

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Hi again,

When I moved into this house in 2001, there was a string of wire that had snapped and attached to it were some really old vines. The trunks were enormous and split. I tried to nurture them but only got the tiniest fruit imaginable. Smaller than you can imagine, LOL, no.. a bit smaller than that LOL :p

Let's just say these vines were likely grown by seeds from a store-bought fruit. I went ahead and dug them out.

In place of them I bought 2 red grape starters, and two Thompson seedless; both of which have taken off really well over the past five years or so.

My fruit has been on my red grapes, but they ripen one grape at a time. Literally it will be a cluster of hard green grapes, and one by one they ripen each day. Never amounting to a full cluster and by the time the second grape is ripe the birds have taken the previous ripe grape, leaving only the one ripe grape at a time. It is really quite pathetic. I figured that I will have to make a sort of cheesecloth like sack for each cluster next year.

I also feel that this area, although it gets a full afternoon's direct sun, is not lengthy in the time of sunlight, and so the plants grow vigorously because they are partially shaded. I will do a heavy pruning and try that, I was also using the vine as a 'flight and fence' cover.

As for the masses of leaves, my bunnies just love grape leaves, so my plants have been a source of nutrition for something around here at least.

Ron
 

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My grapes have been sunburnt and I lost all my leaves from my vine. :(

I hope and pray next year it comes back... I don't know how this happened!
 

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HiDelight said:
oh darn I was going to skip pruning them this year I am trying to get them to cover a huge arbor and thought I would get more grapes if I had a bigger vine ..see how much I know about grapes??? I thought I was over pruning but the vines are just under five years old so maybe next year if I prune heavy I will do better?

and if I dont they will not produce?

we do prune them in the fall when the leaves fall off dont we?

I want production! and I want wine :love..so really 90% has to go?

oh well I will do it..
Yes if you dont prune your grapes the production will go down, i even researched to be sure they said 75 to 90 percent pruning.
 

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are you going to use your grapes to make jelly or jam perhaps? or if you have enough make some wine.
I have 2 vines...Audrey and Seymore. They are 8 and 7 years old. I have NO CLUE what kind of grapes they are. One tastes better fresh...the other one tastes better after cooking. I think I will have enough to make wine AND jelly.
 

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We have a wild grape vine on our pasture fence with 3 whole clusters on it this year... which is 3 more than its ever had before...
 

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Greenthumb18 said:
HiDelight said:
oh darn I was going to skip pruning them this year I am trying to get them to cover a huge arbor and thought I would get more grapes if I had a bigger vine ..see how much I know about grapes??? I thought I was over pruning but the vines are just under five years old so maybe next year if I prune heavy I will do better?

and if I dont they will not produce?

we do prune them in the fall when the leaves fall off dont we?

I want production! and I want wine :love..so really 90% has to go?

oh well I will do it..
Yes if you dont prune your grapes the production will go down, i even researched to be sure they said 75 to 90 percent pruning.
ok I am going to prune away ...after the leaves drop off correct?
 

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HiDelight said:
ok I am going to prune away ...after the leaves drop off correct?
Yes, wait until the leaves start falling.
 

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Hope no one minds me posting in this thread, but I also have a grape question.
I have about 200-300 Concord Grape seeds and would very much like to sprout them and start some vines. I know that growing vines from seed is the most difficult road to having grapevines but I just can't let them go. Plus the kid in me just wants to see if I can do it :)
Now, I've done my research online and keep coming across basically the same method of wintering the seeds in the refrigerator, then planting them indoors in a warm sunny spot about 30 days before the last killing frost. After all danger of frost has passed then I am told to transplant the seedlings, if any, outdoors.
My question becomes, can't I just plant the seeds this fall in dirt, let them winter outside and let nature take over?
Also, I should mention, I am a fledgling urban gardener. Can grapes grow contentedly in pots for the long term?
 

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dragonshiner said:
Hope no one minds me posting in this thread, but I also have a grape question.
I have about 200-300 Concord Grape seeds and would very much like to sprout them and start some vines. I know that growing vines from seed is the most difficult road to having grapevines but I just can't let them go. Plus the kid in me just wants to see if I can do it :)
Now, I've done my research online and keep coming across basically the same method of wintering the seeds in the refrigerator, then planting them indoors in a warm sunny spot about 30 days before the last killing frost. After all danger of frost has passed then I am told to transplant the seedlings, if any, outdoors.
My question becomes, can't I just plant the seeds this fall in dirt, let them winter outside and let nature take over?
Also, I should mention, I am a fledgling urban gardener. Can grapes grow contentedly in pots for the long term?
:welcome

I don't know much about grape vines or what zone you are in but if you plant seeds outside in the garden and get hit with a frost they will :th
 
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