Have You Ever failed With a Indestructible Perennial ?

[thistlebloom]

Uh oh, @Ridgerunner !

I've gone completely astray and not just crashing 2,000 feet downhill from you ...

Quoting Wikipedia: "Leucanthemum × superbum (or Shasta daisy) ... originated as a hybrid produced in 1890 by the American horticulturist Luther Burbank from a number of daisies... It was named after Mount Shasta, because its petals were the color of the snow."

These daisies all appear to be non-natives ... and if they are growing on Mt. Shasta, have to be considered invasive (link to one example). I didn't know that! I have found them growing a mile or so up in the woods and thought they were natives.

Steve

Do you think they were Shastas Steve, and not Oxeye daisys?
Oxeyes are on the Idaho noxious weed list. They are introduced as maybe all the Leucanthemum are. My Shasta daisies don't seem to spread, at least not very far from the main clump, they just sort of get more girth every year.
Boy, that's familiar!

 

[Ridgerunner]

More girth! You know how to hurt a guy.

 

[Carol Dee]

Do you think they were Shastas Steve, and not Oxeye daisys?
Oxeyes are on the Idaho noxious weed list. They are introduced as maybe all the Leucanthemum are. My Shasta daisies don't seem to spread, at least not very far from the main clump, they just sort of get more girth every year.
Boy, that's familiar!

ME too ...

 

[digitS']

Well, I thought of them as Shasta daisies, just the feral type.

Burbank used several species for his crosses but I checked on 3 and none were natives.

Mt. Shasta is absolutely phenomenal. Every time I see it, it's like the first time.

Steve

 

[Nyboy]

I think girth should be word of the day !!

 

[Ridgerunner]

I think girth should be word of the day !!

I know I'm being overly sensitive but

 

[ducks4you]

I have had more failures that I can count!!!
I lost my Bee Balm because the common sage and oregano crowded it out, and it never got enough sun, even though I had been THOROUGHLY WARNED!!! that it would spread out of control.
I lost cheapo rose bushes a good 12 times until I realized that they liked better soil that my hard clay!
I once heard that you should save the seeds of the vegetable plants that do well in your garden because, if they keep volunteering, they have adapted to your unique habitat. It think that this is true of everything that likes your yard. Some kind bird dropped a columbine seed on the north side of my house and it has been multiplying around the east side for the last few years.
I have a small forest of lily of the valley that somebody started on the NW and North side of the house. I have discovered that it is a practically total shade plant and you'll kill it if it gets too much sun. Same with vinca.
Hen and chicks just kinda sits there...not dying, but not spreading either. I don't think I can wait until the next decade for it to make a good groundcover at my house!

 

[Nyboy]

I was given same warning with bee balm, can not keep it alive.

 

[seedcorn]

Neither can I keep bee balm.

 

[Smart Red]

It seems that I am in the best of company.

I planted bee balm in the turn-around only to have it die out. I planted white, pink, red, dark purple and wild bee balm in the sunny perennial bed only to have every color pass from this property. I planted several red menarda back in the semi-shady bed. I am now down to two flowers.

I love bee balm -- love watching the hummers darting from flower to flower -- I guess I need to do some research and find what works.