How much organic food do you eat?

[valley ranch]

Beekissed, I just reread your post and caught the irony. I think they're talking about fields that are not GMO or using carcinogenic chemicals and chemicals at all on leafy plants, or other veggies just before picking.

There is produce going to market that is raised organic but not touted as such. It's a *&^%E that we have to guess and hope when buying food for our families.

 

[Beekissed]

What amazes me are the number of folks raising their own food in their yard who think Roundup is not harmful to use, so they pour it on anything that they consider a noxious weed on their land. There are just so many better ways to deal with such things but their first go to method is poison.

At that point I want to ask why they bother raising their own food if it's just like what comes from the store? It's much, much cheaper just to buy it from Walmart. Same with folks who get chickens so they will "know what they are eating", then feed them the same formulated feeds commercial battery hens consume and give them meds for this or that illness and even more meds for worms, etc. If they just wanted to "know" but didn't particularly care if they were eating blah foods and consuming meds, why not just study up on commercial methods and "know" what's going in their bodies and buy the very much cheaper eggs from the store?

Very confusing....

 

[seedcorn]

Shouldn't be confusing at all.

Many of use Roundup and believe all scientific data that it is safe. We do not let the profit monsters who preach doom with no evidence sway us.

After feeding generations of swine and poultry with no side affects, some of us reject your ideas but don't mind others living your way.

 

[Beekissed]

Profit monsters? I'm curious....would those be the folks who fund the scientific research that says it's safe to use? Or...? Still confused about who stands to profit by not wanting to dump chemicals on the foods we eat?

 

[seedcorn]

Profit monsters are organic people that are profiting from hysteria with NO scientific data showing that roundup is still active or that GMO are causing genetic deformities.

Organic pushers can charge 2-3X more for same products.

I have no problems with people wanting/paying for organic, just get tired of unfounded claims.

 

[seedcorn]

Then you don't understand the implications of that bill. Organic and non-GMO may be sued out of existence by lawyers. You really don't understand the reality of this.

 

[Beekissed]

I don't think much proof is needed when you put something on green and living things and it causes them to die. Indiscriminately, I might add. How much more proof does one need that this is not something any living thing should ingest? That's pretty much a no brainer, right there.

I don't much care about Monsanto vs. organic producers, nor do I care about politics. What I do care about is common sense and how one can use it to not create more harm on this Earth than one needs to in order to grow food. It's just not necessary to even use the stuff at all....folks been growing food since the Earth began without pouring poison on things or the need for doing so, so I'm still left confused as why folks do it. There is no plausible explanation I've heard yet to justify it or the need for it, so I'm still left wondering why.

 

[valley ranch]

10 Sobering Facts About Monsanto’s RoundUp (Glyphosate) and How The EPA Ignores Dangers
May 19, 2013 Kristen Watts No comments

Presented below are ten sobering facts about Glyphosate (the key ingredient in Monsanto’s RoundUp weedkiller, which the majority of Monsanto’s seeds are genetically engineered to withstand):

1) Glyphosate causes disease and biological / physiological disorders in crops
Fifteen years of research by the USDA indicates that the chemical glyphosate, the key ingredient in RoundUp herbicide, is linked to fungal root disease in plants.

Article:http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/04/13/us-usa-gmos-regulators-idUSTRE63C2AJ20100413
Purdue Report about biological/physiological disorders: http://www.btny.purdue.edu/weedscience/2011/GlyphosatesImpact11.html

 

[valley ranch]

2) Glyphosate is no longer effective at killing weeds
Article about Superweeds: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/business/energy-environment/04weed.html
International Database on Glycines (Glyphosate family):http://www.weedscience.com/summary/MOA.aspx?MOAID=12
Iowa State: http://www.extension.iastate.edu/CropNews/2011/0120hartzler.htm
University of Arkansas: http://bumperscollege.uark.edu/test_cses2012/1946.php
National Academy of Sciences Report: http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12804

 

[valley ranch]

3) Glyphosate use is increasing steadily
According to the USGS, more than 88,000 tons of glyphosate were used in the United States in 2007, up from 11,000 tons in 1992. Since the advent of “super weeds,” the use of glyphosate (and other even stronger weed killers) has risen significantly.

Article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/31/us-glyphosate-pollution-idUSTRE77U61720110831