Hurricane Joaquin

[catjac1975]

Yes, I heard her statement now often repeated since last night. Strange how she could know what went on in the Americas way back since the year 1015. She actually said, "We haven't seen this kind of rainfall in the low country in a thousand years." That's pretty good record keeping (by whom?).

I can see how devastating the situation is and I pray things will normalize soon for the citizens effected by this storm, but language is language. How she could say this and why the media would pick up and repeat it is beyond me.

I think that was a figure of speech. I also heard it called a 200 year event. But, archeologists can find records of such events. I do not think they can do it with such time accuracy as a thousand years. Maybe 10,000 years.

 

[ninnymary]

I agree with you cat. I did not take it to mean literally.

Mary

 

[majorcatfish]

no word on our store in columbia all the roads in that area are closed.... they sure got their tail whipped with that storm....

 

[Just-Moxie]

I learned that term.."Thousand year rainfall" back when the ex was a city official for a small town of 5,000. I asked him too what they meant. He said it is actually referring to a 100 year flood probability, and municipalities hired the city engineers to design and implement the drainage culverts to accommodate a certain amount of water. So the town we lived in, installed larger storm drains for the larger amounts of rain.


according to wiki;

"Regulations and local building codes[edit]
Building codes and local government ordinances vary greatly on the handling of storm drain runoff. New developments might be required to construct their own storm drain processing capacity for returning the runoff to the water table and bioswales may be required in sensitive ecological areas to protect the watershed.

In the United States, cities, suburban communities and towns with over 10,000 population are required to obtain discharge permits for their storm sewer systems, under the Clean Water Act.[20] The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) issued stormwater regulations for large cities in 1990 and for other communities in 1999.[21] The permits require local governments to operate stormwater management programs, covering both construction of new buildings and facilities, and maintenance of their existing municipal drainage networks. Many municipalities have revised their local ordinances covering management of runoff. State government facilities, such as roads and highways, are also subject to the stormwater management regulations.[22] Many local municipalities have placed ordinances for both commercial and residential stormwater management practices to be designed, implemented, and approved before an occupancy permit is released."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_drain

 

[digitS']

So, based on records and probability statistics, there is a .001 chance of a rainstorm of this magnitude?

Both the Sequoia and Redwood may live over 2,000 years. Bistlecone Pines live remarkably longer! Annual growth is shown in rings. Daily weather, of course, wouldn't be shown.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_trees

Today, I've really got too much time on my hands. Have only run one errand. Dosed off twice ... obviously, in no flood zone.

Steve

 

[Just-Moxie]

I don't know. It's an Engineer thing

Ex husband was an Equipment Operator in the Seabees for 17 years. They dealt with all that stuff on a daily basis.

 

[Smart Red]

Of course I realized the Governor had to have been speaking in hyperbole, but now that the newscasters have repeated the statement -- newspapers have headlined the statement -- tickers along the bottom of the screen have reiterated it -- it takes on the element of fact.

Future students researching the "great flood of 2015" will learn -- in part -- that this was a 1000 year rainfall event. There will be no recall of the fact the person who said it was exaggerating for effect.

Because I am so literal does not mean I don't recognize when people speak with no expectation of being taken literally. My comment was on the NEWS media. The Governor's statement was not intended to be factual. News is.

Moxies 100 year floods I understand. A few years back this area had "50 year flooding" two years in a row. Go figure!

 

[canesisters]

Did anyone else take all the 'emergency food' (JUNK & no-cook stuff) and hide it somewhere so that it won't get eaten before the next big storm comes blowin up the coast?

 

[digitS']

I won't post the image, it's a little disturbing knowing what damage the storm has done. The Weather Service refers to it as a very impressive 4 day radar: (LINK)

And, here is a bigger picture of that side of the Earth: (LINK)

The images were recorded at the University of Miami and you can watch time tick away at the bottom of the screen.

Steve

 

[majorcatfish]

they were allowed to enter today still no power, no flooding inside the building, but the yard is still a mess<no power, no yard sump pump>