Is this a joke??

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I think I got the door open just in time and you are just getting what blew thru here earlier this week ;).

Really, it wasn't so much record lows as record low highs!

Yeah, once again, there are these real cool spring days to put a stop to any plant growth. I guess the Kentucky bluegrass in the lawn likes it.

Steve
 

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2 years ago here in California, north of San Francisco 120 raven flying miles or so, 1800 feet elevation, 50 raven flying miles inland from the coast, on June 3rd it did a small flurries of snow.

Last year May 8th was a good start for the main garden.

This year mid april was, and peas went in day before st. patrick's day.

These polar cells and el ninos, and atmosphere rivers, weakening polar vortex doohickies, lots of these things are doing counterintuitive things. When there is less total deep ice in the arctic ocean the natural vortex above the north pole is not as strong, and the air up there has its moisture levels changing. So the arctic air mass slips south. Some of that directly cools areas, while other areas get temperate air moving north, which then cools up north. I was reading about this in Scientific American. So that chilled temperate air that moved north then comes back southward because the polar vortex that normally holds the polar air masses up there is still weakened because it is over cold water or thin ice instead of the deep normal arctic ice.

Meantime, don't let it fool you. Now is the time to invest in coastal Greenland real estate!!!
 

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I feel sorry for ya'll, really I do. Not being a smart alec, I really have sympathy for you frozen gardeners. I think I would go nuts, it might get hotter than the devil's workshop here, but I think I'll keep it, our winters are nothing compared to what ya'll go through.
 

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yeah, tell me all about it Bay. i'm not happy since i spent most of a day working on getting some of my tomatoes into pots outside finally and moved all my other veggies outside so i could get them in the ground. now the weather people are saying we're getting into the mid to high 30's and possibly some slushy snow tonight. :(
 

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Wow, what a week! I was wearing a sweater and jacket last night trying to stargaze with my daughter. It was so cold, we quit the telescope! :( It only got down to like 44 here, but seriously... its been up to 90 this past week. What is going on?!
 

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i still choose to call it climate change. there is no way that having a wonderfully warm day suddenly drops 20 degrees the next day to a 30 degree rise the next should be from global warming. :lol: i also understand that our last/first frost dates are an average, so there is still the potential for frost in our neck of the woods. but snow! that is just getting to be crazy weather when we're almost done with May!
 

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I look at it that we are between ice ages. One cold late spring means nothing to me as far as proving there is no global warming. A summer with the hottest temperatures in 50 years means no more than it did 50 years ago as far as global warming.

Our climate is changing. It always does, from ice age to ice age and whatever happens in between. Do I think mankind has an effect on that. Yep. What affect are we having right now? Ask my Great Grand kids. Maybe theyll have a clue, but I doubt it. A big volcano could totally change any trends we are setting.

I do what I can to reduce my impact but I dont obsess over it.

Have a nice day, Jim.
 

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We had a bit of the potato bed nipped by Friday's frost - not badly, just enough to damage a few leaves - but nothing on the dahlia bed. (yeah!) Everything else made it through this late frost with no problems that I have seen. . . . yet.
 

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