Limiting Calories - effective/ineffective

[bobm]

Several years ago I joined a medical diabetes program that was sponsored by Washington State University that had a " healthy " diet quite similar to Larisa's that was supposed to help to help me to loose weight as well as control blood sugar. Well ... by going in to a daily weigh in, I gained 10 pounds in 2 weeks. I then drastically limited consumption of fruits and vegetables as well as cheese , cottage cheese, yogurt, and peanut butter ( I am allergic to those ) and increased my consumetion of meat . The result ... I lost the 10 pounds but it took 3 weeks to do so. Yes, genetics controls body type. Genetics also play a major role in how we digest our food and convert carbs to sugars by producing enzimes ( or not or slightly different ones ) that regulate our pathways to fat storage then burn the fat to produce energy, etc. . Most of the diatitions don't seem to understand this little fact but continue to insist that their way is the right way . NOT in my case anyway.

 

[Pulsegleaner]

@Pulsegleaner
Your way - is to "negotiate" with the reptilian brain. It was he subjected to programming.
Then limbic brain. I think you should create a link between food and pleasure in your case.
And only then - the neocortex. Good dialogue with neocortex - irony. Do not take seriously what he says. For example, my son was in the junior class had an authoritarian teacher, whom he feared. She was a strong teacher, but she shouted loudly at the children. My son was afraid and it hurt him. Then I gave him advice. When she cries - have to mentally put the trashcan on her head and imagine how the trash falls from her head. Perhaps nepedagogichno. But he did it. She screamed, and he was funny, not scary.
I would advise you to read something about the neuro - linguistic programming.
But it is not "fashionable author", but scientific work specialist. It really works.

- It is forbidden phrase! Taboo!
The word "forever" be replaced by "temporarily". Your therapist - a good specialist, I hope?

That is the LAST thing I should be doing with my limbic brain. My cortex isn't just down on pleasure through eating, it's down on ALL pleasure. That's my whole problem, as miserable as I am, I will do anything in my power to make myself MORE miserable. I am a moral masochist of the most extreme level, I live for self torment (which is bad) and tormenting others (which is worse). It's going to be a long road before I can solve most of my problems.

 

[Larisa]

@Pulsegleaner
I once studied together with a girl who had a similar problem. She had a lot of trouble in the family during childhood. Communication was difficult with her, but it was. This girl still wanted to communicate. We all tried to make this communication positive. Yes, it's a long job. Then she worked with her therapist. She began to have a healthy cause - effect relationships. She agreed that love can be obtained in any other way (not through suffering). Many years later. I do not know how she lives now, but she was married.
The main thing that you yourself would like to change something. And take care therapist.

 

[digitS']

Prehistorically, the most northern populations had a very high consumption of meat. It would be a mistake to think that they had no vegetable foods but they had very little. Eating the fish, seal and reindeer was necessary. No matter what is said about growing cabbage in Alaska, one can read what their cooperative extension service says about gardening and then imagine living on the North Slope.

This diet wasn't just confined to the Arctic Circle. Many of the societies in Europe and Asia were made up of semi-nomadic herdsmen. There were winter villages and summer pastures.

If we look at societies in the tropics, we can find people who lived with a plant-based diet. There were Native Americans in Central America who were very close to being vegetarians. This was true elsewhere in places like South Asia. Decisions on eating meat might be established by religion or not. Diet often has most to do with what was available and what was customary.

I also think that what is considered bread, for example, was a good deal different from what people are just a few centuries ago. That is part of our problems with poor diets and diseases related to food. It isn't as though the "paleo-diets" were necessarily so wonderful. After all, the prehistoric advent of corn farming in the Andes can be identified by the tooth decay found in human remains.

Choices are presently overwhelming! So, we can choose to choose wisely.

Steve

 

[Larisa]

Now, some nutritionists say that there should be those products that grow where people live. Allegedly, they can bring the greatest benefit. (This means that I can not eat a mango!) Although "ethnic food" was justified, of course. As Steve said, greasy food for cold countries, and plant for warm countries. Without the chance for choice before.
Or nutritionists have developed nutrition on blood group. For example, people from the first group of blood (the oldest), should eat more meat. And people with 4 blood group (the youngest), should eat more plant food. To find out exactly your diet, it is necessary to come to the clinic and pay a lot of money for analysis and recommendations. I do not agree with these theories. I think it's search for "original ideas" to make their name known.
Modern bread is different, of course. When my great-grandmother used to bake bread in the oven, it remains fresh for a long time. Now if I do not have time to eat bread from the supermarket, he will be mold after 4 days.

 

[seedcorn]

While eating excess food will add pounds of fat to our body, too little food will not decrease fat. Before fat goes, muscle is taken. Weight loss takes less calories and muscle build up (exercise).

 

[so lucky]

While eating excess food will add pounds of fat to our body, too little food will not decrease fat. Before fat goes, muscle is taken. Weight loss takes less calories and muscle build up (exercise).

Boy, seedcorn, that is depressing.
But I thought our bodies burned fuel in the order of sugars (carbohydrates), fats, then muscle.

 

[seedcorn]

Sugars are burnt or converted to starch and deposited as fat. Fat is the last thing to burn up. It's considered a long term storage. Has 2.5X more energy but very slow to break down.

Obese people that go on a limited diet commonly die of heart failure as it's easiest muscle to break down.

 

[baymule]

Thanksgiving is at our house this year. Our daughter and family will come and they are bringing friends, couple with 2 girls, that don't have family here. We invited neighbors, couple with 3 boys, her sister and his father and anybody else we can find with no family here. Big meal, lots of food, lots of sweets, visit, talk, and have fun.

Christmas will be at my sisters, 3 hours away. Big meal, lots of food, pies, sweets, visit, talk and have fun. I'll make my great grandmother's eggnog from scratch. We'll have white elephant gifts and steal from each other, lots of fun.

New Years Eve, stay home, stay off roads and let the drunks and police have it. New Years Day, a small meal and relax.

 

[thistlebloom]

Sugars are burnt or converted to starch and deposited as fat. Fat is the last thing to burn up. It's considered a long term storage. Has 2.5X more energy but very slow to break down.

Obese people that go on a limited diet commonly die of heart failure as it's easiest muscle to break down.

I have not heard this before Seed. Where do you get this info?