Need some input on color

Jared77

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Cat is this what you were thinking of? Clematis Henryi

Its one of my favorites too. If I was going to do 2 colors I was planning on doing something like BJ suggested. I usually only like hints of white in the garden but that white clematis has always caught my eye. I don' t know if I could do a whole archway of it though. I'd rather use it as a complimentary color. For example, using 2 dark pink clematis, sandwiching a white in between the 2 when I plant it so its more of an accent color.

Really its the only flowers or color in that area. I thought I'd plant the archway with clematis, maybe some dwarf balloon flowers at the base, or some other short perennials to soften the bottom of the archway visually and that's it. Real simple, not looking to draw too much attention away from the archway but still make it look finished and complete. I like that softened bottom like it needs something to transition other than just down and then ground. Makes my eyes feel like they've gone "splat" as they trace the archways. Especially when they have that nice soft curve along the top and then to end it so suddenly never sits well with me. Always comes off as incomplete.

My concern was having the color get lost at that distance and it just appearing as a green archway.

I had planned on trying to figure out a color palette, and then use different varieties to increase bloom time be it a single color or colors. For example say dark purple. Then figure out the different varieties with alternating bloom times and have dark purple all the time. Or if I did 2 colors they'd have different bloom times too anything to keep it in color for as long as I can.

I know there are a ton of varieties so that's part of why I thought to do clematis so I shouldn't have too much trouble finding what I'm after in both color and bloom schedule.

We use the deck whenever we can. Plus the kitchen window isn't small and we spend a lot of time in the kitchen. And I forgot to mention the french doors that go out to the deck. The kitchen table is inline with them so you can sit at the kitchen table, look out the french doors and see the garden too. The views great just want something to look at. That's why I'm kicking this around now. Lot of decisions to make on this.

Since I've been doing my research on this, I noticed that some people combine roses with clematis. Both climbers on the same trellis. Its an absolutely stunning look but now its opens things up even more if I wanted to go that route! :th

For example: here, here, here, and lastly here.

Cause I know mentioning something like that would demand pics :p

See this is why I start ideas like this now because I need all this extra time to figure what I want so I can order it in time!
 

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Jared, I'm a color person. In fact, my garden furniture and chicken coop are in bright colors! I would say to use a bright color for your clematis and I would plant all 4 the same color. I would then paint the arbor in a contrasting bright color. I learned from experience that you can't see certain colors from a far. I slowly started exchanging my pale colors for brighter colors in my perennials.

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I think that is the one. I have always thought of it as a bridal veil, so I had forgotten the name. It is such a showstopper. I hope you know they only bloom for a couple of weeks. They do need pruning so too entangled with other plants may be a problem. For the lovely blend with the roses you will have to plan the blooming times very carefully.Get the White's flower farm catalog. Even if you do not buy from them they give a great rundown of the types of Clematis and their cultural requirements. I warn you.... Read their catalog at great risk to the budget.
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Cat is this what you were thinking of? Clematis Henryi

http://www.whiteflowerfarm.com/inde...n=2013+07+01&gclid=COLsxtz5wLgCFY2e4Aod7GIATw

Its one of my favorites too. If I was going to do 2 colors I was planning on doing something like BJ suggested. I usually only like hints of white in the garden but that white clematis has always caught my eye. I don' t know if I could do a whole archway of it though. I'd rather use it as a complimentary color. For example, using 2 dark pink clematis, sandwiching a white in between the 2 when I plant it so its more of an accent color.

Really its the only flowers or color in that area. I thought I'd plant the archway with clematis, maybe some dwarf balloon flowers at the base, or some other short perennials to soften the bottom of the archway visually and that's it. Real simple, not looking to draw too much attention away from the archway but still make it look finished and complete. I like that softened bottom like it needs something to transition other than just down and then ground. Makes my eyes feel like they've gone "splat" as they trace the archways. Especially when they have that nice soft curve along the top and then to end it so suddenly never sits well with me. Always comes off as incomplete.

My concern was having the color get lost at that distance and it just appearing as a green archway.

I had planned on trying to figure out a color palette, and then use different varieties to increase bloom time be it a single color or colors. For example say dark purple. Then figure out the different varieties with alternating bloom times and have dark purple all the time. Or if I did 2 colors they'd have different bloom times too anything to keep it in color for as long as I can.

I know there are a ton of varieties so that's part of why I thought to do clematis so I shouldn't have too much trouble finding what I'm after in both color and bloom schedule.

We use the deck whenever we can. Plus the kitchen window isn't small and we spend a lot of time in the kitchen. And I forgot to mention the french doors that go out to the deck. The kitchen table is inline with them so you can sit at the kitchen table, look out the french doors and see the garden too. The views great just want something to look at. That's why I'm kicking this around now. Lot of decisions to make on this.

Since I've been doing my research on this, I noticed that some people combine roses with clematis. Both climbers on the same trellis. Its an absolutely stunning look but now its opens things up even more if I wanted to go that route! :th

For example: here, here, here, and lastly here.

Cause I know mentioning something like that would demand pics :p

See this is why I start ideas like this now because I need all this extra time to figure what I want so I can order it in time!
 

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I wouldn't presume to express a preference but I've enjoyed reading this the last few days :cool:. I don't have the best color vision which really put me at a disadvantage when working with flowers. To overcome this, I've just followed the idea of getting many colors into things so that people, at least, won't fault me for not trying ;).

The ideas on this question from Jared differ but they all seem quite valid and insightful to me! It has to do with art and altho' I really like the idea of looking at what other artists have put on canvas or in fabric, just everything can play a part in artistry
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I know a lot of research went into timing those just right. I even thought it would be really nice even if they didn't really get much overlapping blooms at least make up for when the other plant wasn't in bloom. So have roses in bloom, then clematis, then possibly roses again if I chose carefully. Even if not the clematis tend to bloom later so even a 2nd show of color would be a bonus to an earlier blooming climbing rose.

Sorry I didn't clarify that.
 

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Ok ok, can i change my vote after looking at your pics?? Haha. I love pic #2 with the yellow roses and burgundy clematis...you see, they only have to be the same color if they're the same PLANT, by my rules.
 

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