New Hens and Coons

[flowerbug]

A good dog will keep them away

but then you need a guard dog for the dog if you leave them out all night and with the coyotes and such it could be a loud out there. even just plain ol' raccoons going around at night can fight with each other (or perhaps that's mating?) or with cats or whatever else is running around out there. the other night Mom asked me if i heard anything, but i didn't, guess it got loud - sometimes it does.

 

[Nyboy]

Yep for coyotes you need more then 1 dog, more the better. Whats wrong with that? I own 12 and co own another 10 dogs

 

[flowerbug]

for you to have that many animals like that means that to have some balance in this world others would have to go without.

this is my own view, but i'm pretty sad about the state of this world as it is going. some ways things are ok, but in other ways there's enough bright red warning lights flashing...

 

[so lucky]

for you to have that many animals like that means that to have some balance in this world others would have to go without.

this is my own view, but i'm pretty sad about the state of this world as it is going. some ways things are ok, but in other ways there's enough bright red warning lights flashing...

I have read that many many people are feeling sad, depressed and hopeless about the state of the world. More antidepressants being prescribed, more drinking going on. You just have to have faith that things will turn out OK, and try to be a bright spot in your own part of the world.

 

[Nyboy]

Why would " others have to go without" because of the number of dogs I have ? I have that number because I can afford them. It takes nothing away from others.

 

[bobm]

Why would " others have to go without" because of the number of dogs I have ? I have that number because I can afford them. It takes nothing away from others.

The bleeding heart mentality ... since you can afford to do what you want, you can then pay your fair share for everyone elses' wants too.

 

[flowerbug]

The bleeding heart mentality ... since you can afford to do what you want, you can then pay your fair share for everyone elses' wants too.

got nothing to do with it. it is about what the world is capable of sustaining and right now it's not looking like it's going to be able to support what we have let alone a lot more and if all those a lot more want carnivores as pets it's really going to crash even worse than it already is.

that is reality. it has nothing to do with "liberal" or "conservative" or anything beyond basic physics/biology/chemistry and observing the world and how it is responding to what people are doing to it.

 

[baymule]

You are talking to a lot of people here that do care about the earth and sustainability. There are people here that work hard in their gardens, can, freeze, dehydrate their produce and share their produce with others.

for you to have that many animals like that means that to have some balance in this world others would have to go without.

I have carnivores, big ones. I can offal from slaughtering our hogs, lambs and chickens. The dry dog food I feed them has meat in it, but you can bet is isn't the glowing pictures of whole chicken or marbled steak that is on a lot of high priced dog food. People are stupid. Pet food is made from what people don't want to eat. Pet food is taking nothing from anybody's mouth, but is taking what would be a waste product and making use of it. Where do you think all that liver, heart, kidney, intestines and other offal parts go to? What do you think is done with all the male baby chicks from layer breeds in the commercial egg houses? "Made with REAL chicken!" Yup, sure is! What happens with all the offal from chicken slaughter facilities? Chicken guts go towards pet food. Feather meal is a source of protein.

Nobody is going without because I have big dogs. Nobody is going without because @Nyboy has 12 dogs and co-owns another 10 dogs. If we both shot all our dogs tomorrow, that would make no difference in the number of hungry people. There has always been people with more and people with less and there always will be. That is, unless socialism takes over, then everybody has the same portion of nothing. I don't see anybody lining up for chicken guts or a heaping plate of chopped hog heart, but my dogs do.

That is a very dark view of the world. I can understand that you are worried about the state of things. There is a huge world population, and everybody eats. Is everything equally distributed? No. There are countries with rich resources and bad governments where people are starving. Those countries could easily feed themselves and export food. In our own country, there are people who are poor and hungry. That is why we have services, funded by taxpayers, to help those who are less fortunate. It is an imperfect world.

 

[baymule]

Dew, sorry for the derailment. Back to chickens and coons.

 

[flowerbug]

I have read that many many people are feeling sad, depressed and hopeless about the state of the world. More antidepressants being prescribed, more drinking going on. You just have to have faith that things will turn out OK, and try to be a bright spot in your own part of the world.

i don't have faith. i prefer action and speaking out against abuses. people obviously don't want to hear that they are being greedy destructive monkeys and they want to dress those facts up in other deceptions, but that means they're often blatantly ignoring the teaching of their own religions (but they don't want to hear that either). note that one of those teachings is to share with each other if someone is in need. what happens when the wider world and nature is in need? why won't you share with them too?