One Farmers Perspective on the Raw Milk

[seedcorn]

Agree that hygiene practices do help. In 50's and 60's just about everyone got mumps, measles and rubella were also common, typhoid mainly from south or travelers. IF your definition is DIE, OK. I have family that were made infertile from those "harmless" diseases. But it's your God given right to endanger your family. I clearly chose not to. I've experienced the after math and it's stupid to endanger loved ones.

You do realize none of those diseases are because someone didn't wash their hands?

Polio vaccine, introduced 1953. It's reason you no longer think about it. For a nurse, you really need to learn your medical history to understand WHY some diseases today are an after thought. I don't mean that as mean but those that fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[thistlebloom]

Yes, it's hygiene that has made the most difference in the drop of disease. Clean drinking water, washing your hands after you go to the toilet, washing your hands before you eat and when you're sick.

Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) was an asymptomatic typhoid carrier who spread the disease because she didn't wash her hands after going to the toilet. If she had only been hygienic in her habits she wouldn't have caused such an upheaval.

Typhoid can be spread from stool contamination of food or water.

 

[seedcorn]

If anyone is reading this and thinks mumps is just a child's disease. Let an adult male get it, good chance infertility can come from it.

Worse yet, mumps later becomes shingles. Think shingles is an innocent disease, my friends got it. One is on spinal block and Meds trying to control nerve damage and constant pain. Yes, I got shingles vaccine even though it is only 60% effective. The 40% that do get it after vaccine, the side effects are much less. Yes, I had mumps....

 

[seedcorn]

Yes, it's hygiene that has made the most difference in the drop of disease. Clean drinking water, washing your hands after you go to the toilet, washing your hands before you eat and when you're sick.

Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) was an asymptomatic typhoid carrier who spread the disease because she didn't wash her hands after going to the toilet. If she had only been hygienic in her habits she wouldn't have caused such an upheaval.

Typhoid can be spread from stool contamination of food or water.

You believe washing your hands is the difference? You can't be serious.....

 

[thistlebloom]

You believe washing your hands is the difference? You can't be serious.....

Dead serious. I'm not saying it's the only way it's spread, but that it was the way TM spread it, because she was a cook.

Yeah, believe it or not Seed, being clean and careful can make a huge difference in health.

 

[seedcorn]

I would NEVER DISAGREE that cleanliness is important--NEVER. It's just not a preventative from those diseases. If they were, they would not have been so destructive before vaccines. People were clean before vaccines.

Don't want to vaccinate your children, don't. But you are endangering our children because when they break its HOT and even vaccinated can be over come. It doesn't make you a bad person, it's that you have never experience the consequences. I pray you don't.

 

[thistlebloom]

I would NEVER DISAGREE that cleanliness is important--NEVER. It's just not a preventative from those diseases. If they were, they would not have been so destructive before vaccines. People were clean before vaccines.

Don't want to vaccinate your children, don't. But you are endangering our children because when they break its HOT and even vaccinated can be over come. It doesn't make you a bad person, it's that you have never experience the consequences. I pray you don't.

I'm not here to argue with you Seed.

 

[seedcorn]

Nor I. Those of us devastated by those "innocent" diseases, shudder to think they could rear their ugly heads when there is a simple solution. I get the open distrust of companies, governments, etc. I do as I openly dislike politicians and our political situations. But I've experienced these losses. I would not wish that on anyone--not even lawyers...

 

[thistlebloom]

I did have my kids vaccinated by the way. I'm getting less convinced of the wisdom of all the vaccinations being pushed more and more. The flu vaccine is one that really gives me pause.

 

[seedcorn]

Don't do the flu vaccine. Wife does. I get the flu when I get run down mentally-no vaccine for that.

I understand flu, cold etc as you can't vaccinate for all strains as they mutate every week it seems. Education as to WHY vaccinate and why not is important.

Good friend of mine did not vaccinate his kids. Whenwe are in good humor, we argue over this. He's younger and never felt the diseases wrath.