Posted in Mother Earth News: Gluten-Intolerant~

[Smart Red]

There are many fields put in (mostly) winter wheat in the rural area where we live. I have never seen or heard of Glyphosate (Round-Up) being used on those fields. I have watched the fields dry down before harvest and I have watched the combines harvest the crop. NO GLYPHOSATE is used on this wheat once it is planted. I cannot address whether the product is used to prepare the field before planting, but that would not be in or on the wheat plants. Only the wheat stalks are dried down. There are always a few green weeds growing in the fields and those remain green after the wheat is ready for harvest and regrow green after the wheat is combined.

I don't get into farming discussions often because I don't know much more than what I read, but this is something I do know. We have grown winter wheat ourselves in the past and while I went to the co-op for seed and for fertilizer, I never brought home glyphosate.

Okay, I do have some glyphosate at home. I bought it several years ago when Round-up switched from glyphosate to faster acting herbicides. When I use it, I 'paint' it on weeds in the flower gardens that I can't get out otherwise. I had to purchase it in a 5 gallon container to get the "pure" glyphosate rather than the mish-mash of chemicals sold to consumers as Round-Up in garden shops and home improvement centers today and I anticipate having most of the product still unused when my heirs clean out my garden shed.

I'm done talking now.

 

[seedcorn]

1). You stated glyphosate used on wheat. It clearly is not!
2). Now you switch to herbicides. Ok, they do use herbicides on wheat-just not glyphosate. Europe also uses herbicides-much more intense than we do-go visit, talk to people actually doing the work.
3). Again different varieties do have different genetic make ups. Just like Guernsey milk is different from Holstein milk-something I learned from this site. There is a group that feel we have included a segment of society into the gluten intolerance but it is more accurately another gene from another grass plant intolerance. There is a push to get back older, less profitable varieties but once again, it's what the consumer will pay for.

Some of you need to realize that all glyphosates are herbicides but not all herbicides are glyphosates.

 

[seedcorn]

@Smart Red I hear you on buying "store" round up. It's 90+% water. Farmers use between a pint to quart per 10 gallons of water per acre. What the companies add to the mix are surfactants to allow the glyphosate to enter faster and not be tied up by minerals in water. Mix "pure" glyphosate with hard water, it's almost all tied up. When it first came out, farmers were mixing in acetic acid to make it "hot".

 

[valley ranch]

http://thefarmerslife.com/biotechnology/long-term-glyphosate-use-effect-on-wheat/

Did you not hear the farmers say they use it?

 

[valley ranch]

http://www.nurselovesfarmer.com/2014/11/the-truth-about-glyphosate-and-wheat/

Some say it's good and admit they use it.

 

[bobm]

I know quite a few wheat farmers and custom harvesters in Cal. ... When I asked them about the use of roundup before harvest. HA HA HA is all I got as they would loose too much money in the purchase of the product as well as travel time just to bring it to their fields , airplane/ helicopter costs, pilot and support staff to apply it, labor, fuel, etc. just to apply it. Of NO economic benefit as the wheat matures at the same time to be of any benefit to kill the wheat plants . My ranch in near thousandsv upon thousands of acres of wheat fields ... the ONLY time that any sparaying is done is using aircraft in the spring to apply fungicides on the young plants.

 

[bobm]

Exactly what interest group do you belong to or have a financial interest in that always suggest that there is a huge axe to grind with all types of "facts" to back up derogatory statements at the fingertips ?

 

[seedcorn]

Exactly what interest group do you belong to or have a financial interest in that always suggest that there is a huge axe to grind with all types of "facts" to back up derogatory statements at the fingertips ?

Don't believe they are that. Just uninformed of the reality of AG. All they know is what they read in anti-AG publications that spew nonsense about a better life-meanwhile they want the food, Meds, IT inventions but preach 1940 life styles without even a clue how America was then.

 

[valley ranch]

No one who sells or in any way causes this group dirty chemicals to be put on or in food can claim innocence by ignorance. They have allowed their need to make money to dissuade them from applying the morals that were taught all round them as they grew up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All scientific approvals were paid for by Monsanto, Penn State is an example of financial corruption at the collage level.

Today there are some 8 chemical companies compounding this chemical group and the list is growing. The Monsanto shills are still faithful to its prise product Roundup.

Richard

 

[bobm]

No one who sells or in any way causes this group dirty chemicals to be put on or in food can claim innocence by ignorance. They have allowed their need to make money to dissuade them from applying the morals that were taught all round them as they grew up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All scientific approvals were paid for by Monsanto, Penn State is an example of financial corruption at the collage level.

Today there are some 8 chemical companies compounding this chemical group and the list is growing. The Monsanto shills are still faithful to its prise product Roundup.

Richard