Protect Your Maters From GMO's

[boggybranch]

http://www.rodale.com/new-gmos?cm_mmc=DailyNewsNL-_-2011_02_17-_-Top5-_-NA

 

[vfem]

If they approve one, they'll approve them all... its like a landslide and threats!

BURN DOWN THE USDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Or at least someone needs to march on their stairs!)

 

[seedcorn]

In the '90s, researchers hailed GMOs as a way to reduce pesticide use, but instead, pesticide use is on the rise since GMO corn, soy, canola, and cotton have been widely implemented.

same 'ol, same 'ol. Ag is using much less pesticides.

Don't like GMO's, no problem but just state it and go on without making up things. Superweeds, Monsanto paying farmers to use competitors chemicals, that is so funny it's sad. Weeds have always and will always select genetics within their geo that allow them to survive. That is why herbicides change from time to time. The reason we have glysophates resistent weeds is because some don't use it as labeled.

This has been debated over and over. I just wish the organic promoters would promote their choices without feeling the need to put down commercial ag.

 

[lesa]

I wish we could, seedcorn. Unfortunately, your peanut butter is on my chocolate... If your GMO ends up mixing with my non-GMO, it does not result in a peanut butter cup.
This is scary stuff and I predict the health effects of this are going to be cataclysmic. It used to be comforting to "grow your own", but that comfort is fading fast...

 

[seedcorn]

I wish we could, seedcorn. Unfortunately, your peanut butter is on my chocolate... If your GMO ends up mixing with my non-GMO, it does not result in a peanut butter cup.
This is scary stuff and I predict the health effects of this are going to be cataclysmic. It used to be comforting to "grow your own", but that comfort is fading fast...

I understand that. As long as people will support non-GMO research, it will prosper. What is happening is that companies are spending research money where they can get a return. Those promoting non-GMO are spending $0 on research, just $$ for marketing.

Self pollinating crops just don't get GMO pollen that easy as is implied by some. So your crops are safe. For non-GMO crops do as seed producers do, don't plant seed fields near non-seed fields are, plant a border crop & don't harvest as seed, check the DNA to make sure you have what you think you have.

 

[FarmerDenise]

I wish we could, seedcorn. Unfortunately, your peanut butter is on my chocolate... If your GMO ends up mixing with my non-GMO, it does not result in a peanut butter cup.
This is scary stuff and I predict the health effects of this are going to be cataclysmic. It used to be comforting to "grow your own", but that comfort is fading fast...

I understand that. As long as people will support non-GMO research, it will prosper. What is happening is that companies are spending research money where they can get a return. Those promoting non-GMO are spending $0 on research, just $$ for marketing.

Self pollinating crops just don't get GMO pollen that easy as is implied by some. So your crops are safe. For non-GMO crops do as seed producers do, don't plant seed fields near non-seed fields are, plant a border crop & don't harvest as seed, check the DNA to make sure you have what you think you have.

We don't need non GMO research. Mother nature provided us with non GMO crops.

I am a backyard gardener. I plant where I have space. If my property is adjacent to a GMO farmer, I don't have much choice as to where to plant my crops. Bees don't know not to come from the GMO criop and pollinate my plants. I save my own seeds. Now if my organically grown seeds, that have been in my family for years are pollinated by GMO crop pollen, I 1) no longer have organic seed and 2) Monsanto will claim my seed as theirs!!!

And how am I, a backyard farmer supposed to check the DNA on my seed that has been in my family. And why should I have to?

I do not want to be part of some experiment by Montanso and co-horts. It is GMO crop farmers and Monsanto etc, that should make sure their crop has NO chance of contaminating, what mother nature has created of millions of years. They need to be held responsible for damages they do to the rest of us.

 

[seedcorn]

1) GMO's are in corn, canola, soybeans, & cotton. Are they what you are growing? If so, there are some concerns about cross pollination depending upon which one you are talking about.
2) None of these will cross pollinate with vegetables in your garden.
3) In Ag, we've always had to deal with what our neighbors plant, welcome to our world.
4) Should neighbors complain about each other's gardens because your variety may cross pollinate with my variety thus destroying generations of keeping seed?
5) If you have animals, what about their noises/smells? Keep your noises/smells on your property?

 

[freemotion]

The noises and smells of my animals will not harm anyone else's animals. Now if my male goat escapes and breeds my neighbor's goats, now that is something I should take responsibility for and pay for the damages and make changes to make sure it never happens again. Or my neighbor should be able to sue me and force me to get rid of my buck. That would be fair.

What would not be fair is making my neighbor destroy the resulting offspring since I own the genetics that made it.

And, yes, I know that my neighbor plants sweet corn and I will be planting flint corn so I will make sure that I plant it far enough away from his garden, since I am the one with more land. That is just common sense and being a good neighbor and a good, moral person.

 

[vfem]

The noises and smells of my animals will not harm anyone else's animals. Now if my male goat escapes and breeds my neighbor's goats, now that is something I should take responsibility for and pay for the damages and make changes to make sure it never happens again. Or my neighbor should be able to sue me and force me to get rid of my buck. That would be fair.

What would not be fair is making my neighbor destroy the resulting offspring since I own the genetics that made it.

And, yes, I know that my neighbor plants sweet corn and I will be planting flint corn so I will make sure that I plant it far enough away from his garden, since I am the one with more land. That is just common sense and being a good neighbor and a good, moral person.

Agreed! GMO producin companies don't take the back lash for wrecking another man's crop... they sue them for stealing.

Its like leaving your cell phone on a public bus, and then suing the city for 'stealing' your cell phone.

Of course the government protects the money maker and not the low income farmer who's been ruined. Not enough coverage in the USA with things such as Ag, so it goes unnoticed by the masses who only care about the grocery bills and not WHY they are what they are.

If things go as they are, in the next 5-6 years 1/2 the produce grown with have a GMO twin.

 

[seedcorn]

Noises/smells you don't see/smell it as being a problem. There are many people who would not agree with that view.

IF you are breeding corn, conola, soybeans, & cotton, you would never grow it beside the same commercial crop. If you don't, cross-pollination is not an issue. You would also use a buffer zone so that would also stop it.

You do realize that if you allow a fertile female to run unprotected, it's the owner of the female that is liable--not the owner of the male. In other words, it's the responsibility of the owner to protect his breeders. So using your analogy, it's the responsibility of the plant breeder to isolate/protect his property, not the responsibility of his neighbor. All responsible breeders protect their work.

What we were talking about is protecting vegetables from home gardeners, relax they are safe. Will companies make GMO vegetables, who knows? GMO corn/soybeans are always being evaluated for side affects. So far, Ag workers aren't glowing in dark.