Runner versus pole?

[897tgigvib]

I typed in a nice long repy and somehow my computer ate it
Short version:

White Seeded Kentucky Wonder Pole
and
Goldvining Pole

Those will produce a lot for you

 

[journey11]

For canning, I like pole beans because their upright habit takes up less space in my garden. Plant a few teepees and you will get enough to can. I also like that they keep going, so we eat some fresh and can some off the same bunch. My FIL would always plant 4 long rows of bush beans for canning and pull them up at harvest time, then put something else in after them, since they do fix nitrogen for your soil. It is a wide world of beans...so I understand your frustration.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I've got a lot more space than you do, but for tight spaces I encourage you to use pole beans. Give them something high to run on and they will produce much better in a smaller space than bush or half-runners.

I plant one 40' row of Blue Lake bush beans. These produce pretty early so I can have some to eat on plus I can put some in the pantry. Well, maybe a lot in the pantry.

I plant about the same length of my 10' high garden deer fence in Blue Lake pole beans. I sometimes need a ladder to pick them. I go with the Blue Lake pole because my wife really likes the smell and flavor. The Blue Lake bush beans I got from my local Garden Store (not Lowe's, Wlamart, or Home Depot) produce really nice green beans for me but they do not have the aroma or flavor of the Blue Lake pole beans. And yes, I do think there is a difference in the varieties we get from different sources. I look at it as strains of those varieties.

When the Blue Lake pole beans start producing so I have them to eat, I let my Blue Lake bush beans go to seed. When they dry out I have seeds for next year plus lots of dried beans to cook.

After I can enough of the Blue Lake pole beans to last a couple of years, I keep picking one section for daily eating and let the rest go to seed. Same scenario. Seeds for next year and dried beans to eat.

I also plant two rows of Black Turtle beans for use as dried beans. My wife really likes her Black Turtle beans.

This is just what I do. I don't know which ones will produce best for you. I've grown the Kentucky Wonders and they did really well. I can't argue with Marshall's choice at all. I've never grown the Goldvining but I'd trust his judgment on those.

 

[nachoqtpie]

Okay.... Now where would I find such seeds?

I found gold marie vining in baker creek catalog but not the white kentucky wonder in either of my catalogs.

And, should I use one of these in my corn for 3 sisters?

 

[Smiles Jr.]

<snip> When the Blue Lake pole beans start producing so I have them to eat, I let my Blue Lake bush beans go to seed. When they dry out I have seeds for next year plus lots of dried beans to cook.

After I can enough of the Blue Lake pole beans to last a couple of years, I keep picking one section for daily eating and let the rest go to seed. Same scenario. Seeds for next year and dried beans to eat. <snip>

Are you saying that you let the bean pods turn yellow and then brown while they are on the vine - then open the pods and use the beans as dry beans for cooking throughout the winter and for planting next spring? I always do that for next year's planting but I've never used the beans for cooking. Hmmmm. Do you think I could use KY. Wonders for bean soup or for white beans and rice? How about Blue Lakes? I have a whole coffee can full of dried beans out in the barn for next year's planting and I think I'll try to make some bean soup out of them next month.

I feel kind of stupid. Here I am an old gardener who has been planting both bush and pole beans for many years, but I plant 'em, grow 'em, pick 'em, either eat 'em or can 'em, and I usually don't even know what kind they are. We eat tons of them when they're growing and we can tons of them for when they're not. String beans are string beans to me. I read many threads here about all the different names and colors of beans and I just shake my head. I need an education - duh.

 

[897tgigvib]

Hey guys, I'm thinking of sending or otherwiuse gettin

 

[897tgigvib]

my computer keeps on eating my typing so if i have to send this out sentence by sentence i will...somewhat aggrvatd at th computer

getting to one pereson who can either come get them or some way to get them to you.

I have one coffee can full of mixed appalachian beans including white seeded k wonder, white seeded half runner, wide poded white greasy, white greasy which is a mix of cutshort white seededs some greasy some not so greasy, and some not so cutshort. It also has Mccaslan, and i put some missouri wonders in, and I'll add some others that grow well mixed. the smaller cutshort squared off seeds should then be separated and planted apart, being less vigorous and easily overwhelmed by the likes of the w.s. k wonders.

I also have Dow purple poddeds, a variety developed by slaves forced to do so, that is the ace number one most vigorous and fastest growing pole bean ive ever seen or heard tell of. These will be in a separate can.
and has only been open one time
I also have brown seeded and white seeded italian wax pole. they grow just alike and it took 2 years to separate them, as i got them in a mix. One of them is Goldvining, the other i don't know what is called. they grow similarly, vigorous, and almost too productive. these are the exact opposite of cutshort, and are almost all wide flat pod with gaps between seeds. so tender they don't need cooking at all. Put them in a salad. Or cook them very barely.

I have others too.

Here's my problem with mail. the post office is 20 miles away to the closest one,

 

[897tgigvib]

pressed submit soon as i saw the puter thing happn

20 miles away and was only open one time in the what, 5 years i've been here. the next nearest one is 40 miles away.

This is mendo country. when folks hear im a gardener they think i grow that other green leafy stuff. I don't! but others do. My mailbox is where they regularly go to see my mail!!! and take it my mail. I reported it to the postal service, but heard nothing back. Yep, i got the 2 packages,

Who among us is nearest? It'd be easier for me to just take it there!!! or for them to come and get it.

 

[journey11]

This is mendo country. when folks hear im a gardener they think i grow that other green leafy stuff. I don't! but others do. My mailbox is where they regularly go to see my mail!!! and take it my mail. I reported it to the postal service, but heard nothing back. Yep, i got the 2 packages,

Good grief! Is this from a P.O. box or regular mailbox? That's a federal offense...surely they have to do something. :/

(I grow lots of green leafy stuff too, but it's all kale. I wonder if my neighbors get that impression of me when they see my sunroom glowing like an alien space ship just landed?...from all the grow lights. I did once have neighbors who grew their own...their basement glowed. They had Barney bedsheets to cover the windows. )

Nachoqtpie...If you do 3 sisters, be sure you are using a tall, strong-stalked corn variety. The weight of the beans can pull your corn down.

 

[nachoqtpie]

Oh gosh... I have no idea what kind of corn it is... The package just says "sweet corn" lol

Now I just don't know what I should do. :-\