PennyJo
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OH CRUD how horrible
suicide
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Larisa
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I can not believe that the parents did not notice problems in your child. If we do not help our children, then no one will help. If the child needs treatment, we organize. If the child thinks that he does not fit the "rules of a successful life," and is ready to leave for the sake of this life, to hell with the rules. I'm ready for the sake of their children turn the planet to the other side.
"You can not succeed in school? OK well.
You can learn the craft. Do you remember how you and I are childhood fished and cooked it on fire? And let's go next summer to Altai? And tomorrow - the art - a party or a night walk along the river "?
"It's a ferret. He will now live with us. I feed him in the morning and in the evening you are. "
You can think of "1000 and 1 way to get rid of depression."
It would be nice if the mother not went to work or worked less during this period. Let dad works more.
Of course, I always sympathize with these families. But you can throw a stone at me, I think that the family has the greatest responsibility for this disaster.
"You can not succeed in school? OK well.
You can learn the craft. Do you remember how you and I are childhood fished and cooked it on fire? And let's go next summer to Altai? And tomorrow - the art - a party or a night walk along the river "?
"It's a ferret. He will now live with us. I feed him in the morning and in the evening you are. "
You can think of "1000 and 1 way to get rid of depression."
It would be nice if the mother not went to work or worked less during this period. Let dad works more.
Of course, I always sympathize with these families. But you can throw a stone at me, I think that the family has the greatest responsibility for this disaster.
so lucky
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I agree the family should have been able to see something was terribly wrong, but teenagers are so good at hiding their lives from their family. Lots of times, too, the parent feels something is wrong but doesn't really want to know. It is sort of like opening Pandora's Box. Once the knowledge is out in the open, it needs to be addressed, and often it is life-changing for the whole family.
And suicide attempts are contagious. Once it starts happening in a school or community, others suddenly get the idea to try. Unfortunately, some succeed.
And suicide attempts are contagious. Once it starts happening in a school or community, others suddenly get the idea to try. Unfortunately, some succeed.
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For my granddaughter, as with many people who develop a bi-polar disorder, the condition did not appear until she was an adult (19-ish). It is a difficult tightrope for her parents to manage between allowing her independence to learn and grow and keeping her safe from herself.
Most of the time her medications keep her well on track and she does very well in school -- except that one class she fails each semester. When she takes the class a second time she does well, but always one class has bad grades.
Fortunately, she is on my daughter's insurance and gets all the medical help she needs. She is also on a school 'special needs' list and gets extra help, tutoring, even longer test times when needed. Also fortunately, she and my daughter are very close and daughter is tuned into hearing between the lines when granddaughter calls. My granddaughter has close friends at school with her that know what signs to watch for and have been quick to call my daughter at the start of a downward spiral.
With this disorder, after a while even the good medications fail to work and need changing. This is not easy for my granddaughter to notice so it is good that she has such friends that are not afraid to say something or get my daughter involved.
But the medications do not mix well with alcohol and college students are prone to parties with drinking. Also, there is a tendency to self-medicate with alcohol when mood fluctuations begin to develop.
This should be her last year at college and she has learned that she LOVED working with a passion during this past summer's internship. As she told me, she is a much better worker than student. What's more, her job was one that was fast-paced and high-pressure yet she reveled in the work. Also, she was away from the college parties and my daughter gave her a membership in a gym which she loved. She thrived with the structure of working out each day after work and the exercise helped her body image while it helped build her reserves of good chemical balance.
Yes, the ferret helps. Actually, the cats. She took two of her cats with her to school (no pets usually allowed) and to her summer job. They are therapy pets for her, giving her something to care for, making her feel at home, and soothing her tensions.
At least for my granddaughter, her problem has a chemical imbalance at its root. Without medication, no amount of anti-depression activities would be effective and then she would still require 24-hour surveillance. My granddaughter knows she is loved. She knows she can always trust and rely on her parents if there is a need. She very much wants to be a normal young lady who is independent and successful like her parents. Again, it is a tightrope for her parents to help her manage without seeming to smother her with their attention and worry.
She is one of the very lucky people with this disorder. There are far too many children whose parents do not have the education or finances to help their child as my daughter and son-in-law are able to do. And, perhaps, too many who fail to realize the extent of their child's problems, figuring it is a "phase they will grow out of" rather than a deep depression.
Most of the time her medications keep her well on track and she does very well in school -- except that one class she fails each semester. When she takes the class a second time she does well, but always one class has bad grades.
Fortunately, she is on my daughter's insurance and gets all the medical help she needs. She is also on a school 'special needs' list and gets extra help, tutoring, even longer test times when needed. Also fortunately, she and my daughter are very close and daughter is tuned into hearing between the lines when granddaughter calls. My granddaughter has close friends at school with her that know what signs to watch for and have been quick to call my daughter at the start of a downward spiral.
With this disorder, after a while even the good medications fail to work and need changing. This is not easy for my granddaughter to notice so it is good that she has such friends that are not afraid to say something or get my daughter involved.
But the medications do not mix well with alcohol and college students are prone to parties with drinking. Also, there is a tendency to self-medicate with alcohol when mood fluctuations begin to develop.
This should be her last year at college and she has learned that she LOVED working with a passion during this past summer's internship. As she told me, she is a much better worker than student. What's more, her job was one that was fast-paced and high-pressure yet she reveled in the work. Also, she was away from the college parties and my daughter gave her a membership in a gym which she loved. She thrived with the structure of working out each day after work and the exercise helped her body image while it helped build her reserves of good chemical balance.
Yes, the ferret helps. Actually, the cats. She took two of her cats with her to school (no pets usually allowed) and to her summer job. They are therapy pets for her, giving her something to care for, making her feel at home, and soothing her tensions.
At least for my granddaughter, her problem has a chemical imbalance at its root. Without medication, no amount of anti-depression activities would be effective and then she would still require 24-hour surveillance. My granddaughter knows she is loved. She knows she can always trust and rely on her parents if there is a need. She very much wants to be a normal young lady who is independent and successful like her parents. Again, it is a tightrope for her parents to help her manage without seeming to smother her with their attention and worry.
She is one of the very lucky people with this disorder. There are far too many children whose parents do not have the education or finances to help their child as my daughter and son-in-law are able to do. And, perhaps, too many who fail to realize the extent of their child's problems, figuring it is a "phase they will grow out of" rather than a deep depression.
seedcorn
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@Smart Red glad your G'D is receiving help. Kids face a different type of pressure.
PennyJo
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@Smart Red it is the lack of parenting from some parents that have created the
society we now live in with the troubled kids it is no body's fault mentality
society we now live in with the troubled kids it is no body's fault mentality
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So sorry-the worst.
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bobm
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His parents as well as his friends,my grandson and neighbors were well aware of this boy's issues. They all were very supportive in all things. He also had psychiatric counceling twice a week. He was making great progress. Something must have happened to him last Thursday that no-one knows about that suddenly made him snap, sneak out of his house and go about 12 miles to hang himself.
