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Marshall some of those pod colors in your Nova Star that you posted in the picture contest thread are great.
I know those pods are older pods, what were the colors at the snap bean stage of maturity?
 

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I was going to reply last night but was super sleepy.

Those were apparently F2 segregations Hal, and yes, the pods were very interesting. I'm pretty sure that some pods are of the Appalachian snap bean sort.

The purplish podded ones had black seeds in them. They were not the full purple color of a dow or royalty burgundy, but had a nice purple tinge.

Those that appear wax colored were green in younger stages.

Oh how I'd like to have an appalachian podded wax bean. But this is not it.

What I call Appalachian podded are the greasy, the cutshort, and greasy cutshort, and other edible podded types that have an historical foundation in the Appalachian hills area of America.

Some of the Nova Star segregations were making those Appalachian type pods, but I did no taste or recipe tests.

The true old time way of preparing snap beans in that area was to pick them a bit later than the modern way. (That gets more protein, and snap beans with bacon was breakfast and folks had to work hard so needed a good breakfast). Then the beans were snapped top and bottom and destringed.
 

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When your working on stabilizing a cross, a taste test can be costly as every seed counts.
Your going to get some interesting beans once your done getting them stable.
A yellow podded one would be good to have, I like the color personally and yellows seem to have a good flavour when it comes to beans in general and now I am wondering how it would taste.
Snap beans and bacon sounds good right about now, I need to stop thinking about food it is after midnight and I am hungry.
 

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Here is the gist of what CIAT is asking for in return for seeds as I understand it.
"Guidelines for the distribution of genetic materials from the in-trust collections kept at CIAT"

1. About approved purposes for the distribution of materials
The purposes approved for distribution are related to food and agriculture, therefore the requests for agricultural production including commercial production, conservation, breeding, training, research for food and agriculture, are approved.

2. Steps to be fulfilled for the approval of a request
1) the person asking for the germplasm is fully identified, and with full non confusing address,
2) the number and identity of requested material are fully defined (with one set per request),
3) clear purpose with enough elements of description, and in line with the purpose(s) (Agronomy’andTraining’ are valid purposes,) approved by the Governing Body,
4) unambiguous approval of the SMTA, (Standard Material Transfer Agreement)
5) phytosanitary regulations about the shipment are implemented in the country of the Receptor and in Colombia.

3. About the materials that can be approved
Requests for the same material(s) by the same user within the same period of two (2) years will not be processed, but until the third year from the first request. A farmer or any other user when requesting one (1) material will obtain it once the five aforementioned points are met. In like manner, an individual user can ask for up to five (5) materials for purposes such as ‘Agronomy’, ‘Training’ or ‘Conservation’

4. About the amounts that can be approved
It can only deliver small amounts of each requested material to each user. For example, an individual farmer will normally receive twenty seeds of a specific variety of bean or four sticks of a landrace of cassava, enough planting material for multiplication up to his/her needs.

* * * *
If you have a working relationship to your local Extension office, you might enlist their help because. . . Institutions working in extension could obtain up to thirty (30) different materials for variety testing and similar trials.

All in all, it seems very workable. Perhaps we can have one member give the results of a first attempt and go from there. It may be better for someone like Bluejay77 -- with a proven record of bean trials to make a first effort.
Now I will check out the CIAT website for more information. All I've checked is the URL given in a post here.
 
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Thank you Smart!

hmmm, now how do I find an extension agent...
 

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Every county should have an Agricultural Extension office. That agent would be useful mostly if you wanted to test out 30 more different bean varieties than you currently have. Local colleges with AG departments would also be a good resource here.

Hey, I'm in Wisconsin! Finding AG specialists is easy in America's Dairyland.
 
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What I tried to do was go through all the garble-dy gook and glean what was the basic information given. With all the ifs, buts, nots, and exceptions removed, that's what the CIAT is requiring. There are pages with the specific forms delineated above on the CIAT website.
 
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Thanks Digit. Checking to see if Mendocino college has one or more agents.
 

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