2021 Little Easy Bean Network - Bean Lovers Come Discover Something New !

[Ridgerunner]

@Ridgerunner
This year I will sow the seeds of the Karachaganak bush. I am curious if this type of growth will continue. I also asked Russ for a sample of the Tartan seeds. If they reach me in time, I will plant them as well. We'll see what comes out in my growing conditions.

You and I have different segregations of Karachaganak Bush. Yours came from your "climbing" Karachaganak, mine came from my versions of the original. I've grown my bush version once and it repeated, appearance and growth habit both. I'll be very interested in what you get.

This is from my notes for Tartan, or at least the line I've given the working name "Tartan Tan".

A set of cross pollinated beans was obtained in 2016 from Russ Crow with the Code name WB #38. Russ got the beans from Will Bonsall. The mother bean was Terrier Kidney according to Russ’s records. When grown in 2016 WB #38 had several segregations. I called one Tartan. When Grown in 2017 it repeated, but when grown in spring 2019 it segregated into four different beans. I called one Tartan Tan. When grown in spring 2020 it repeated. Very productive.

This photo is the four segregations from Spring of 2019. The "B" version is the one I carried forward as "Tan". The "D" version was the same, just a different plant, but since the "B" version was more prolific I saved all the seeds from that one plant and ate all the "D"'s. The way they were planted I could do that.

An interesting thing when I re-grew it in Spring of 2020. When it is first harvested from a fairly fresh pod the bean was pure white. I thought I had a different segregation. But when it ages a bit the pattern shows up. In my opinion the Tartan Tan version is just as pretty as Karachaganak.

So when you plant it, and I hope you do, don't be surprised if different segregations show up. It will be really interesting to see what you get. Expect a climbing version. I'm not sure yet if it is a semi-runner or half-runner but it is not a pole. It doesn't get that tall.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I really like the two beans on the bottom. Did you try to regrow them?

The one on the bottom is Karachaganak. There is a long story with this but right now there are three versions, a bush and two climbing versions. One round and one oval.

I called the one on the bottom right "Glade Springs" and sent 60 seeds to Russ. They are on page 9 on his website. I tried to grow them once but didn't get any to sprout, but don't read anything into that. That spring nothing sprouted with my first planting. That was really frustrating. I'd planted some Blue Lake bush as a production crop and had great germination so I thought it was safe to plant the network beans. The weather turned cool and wet for a week and a half. Every bean rotted in the ground. I was cocky and didn't think I needed backup seeds so I didn't have any. Lesson learned.

You can probably get some from Russ if you want to try them. I don't know if anybody else has tried to grow them or not.

 

[flowerbug]

I was wondering which runner beans to plant this year. I'll plant Sadie's Horse. I have a sample in the freezer. It is also multi-colored. There are no black seeds, but I saw them on the photos of this bean on the Internet.

that's funny, the first time i grew runner beans they were plants already started and in a pot, i expected red flowers but knew little about the beans themselves. as i was shelling them out i had some solid black ones and then the others which are the more normal black and purple speckledish type. i think i have some black solid ones around still, but i don't know how viable they would be if planted. my season here is just a bit too hot in the summer and not quite long enough in the fall.

 

[flowerbug]

You and I have different segregations of Karachaganak Bush. Yours came from your "climbing" Karachaganak, mine came from my versions of the original. I've grown my bush version once and it repeated, appearance and growth habit both. I'll be very interested in what you get.

This is from my notes for Tartan, or at least the line I've given the working name "Tartan Tan".

A set of cross pollinated beans was obtained in 2016 from Russ Crow with the Code name WB #38. Russ got the beans from Will Bonsall. The mother bean was Terrier Kidney according to Russ’s records. When grown in 2016 WB #38 had several segregations. I called one Tartan. When Grown in 2017 it repeated, but when grown in spring 2019 it segregated into four different beans. I called one Tartan Tan. When grown in spring 2020 it repeated. Very productive.

This photo is the four segregations from Spring of 2019. The "B" version is the one I carried forward as "Tan". The "D" version was the same, just a different plant, but since the "B" version was more prolific I saved all the seeds from that one plant and ate all the "D"'s. The way they were planted I could do that.

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An interesting thing when I re-grew it in Spring of 2020. When it is first harvested from a fairly fresh pod the bean was pure white. I thought I had a different segregation. But when it ages a bit the pattern shows up. In my opinion the Tartan Tan version is just as pretty as Karachaganak.

So when you plant it, and I hope you do, don't be surprised if different segregations show up. It will be really interesting to see what you get. Expect a climbing version. I'm not sure yet if it is a semi-runner or half-runner but it is not a pole. It doesn't get that tall.

B and D look a lot like the Hidatsa Shield Figure beans. a very nice pattern IMO.

 

[heirloomgal]

I was wondering which runner beans to plant this year. I'll plant Sadie's Horse. I have a sample in the freezer. It is also multi-colored. There are no black seeds, but I saw them on the photos of this bean on the Internet.

@Artorius this past summer was the first time I ever grew Sadie's, and I found the growth really aggressive. The vines had reached the top of my 9 ft wire frame trellis by mid- June, and from there just spiralled and re-twirled around the top foot of the trellis for the rest of the summer. By September it looked like the trellis had grown a huge mop of wild green hair. I had heard that runner beans like cooler weather, but we had smokin' hot temperatures all summer long (for my area anyway) and it still flourished. I collected more beans from the few I plants I had, than I have ever collected from Scarlet runners in the past. And I thought Sadie's would give me less, not more, if for no reason than the beans & bean pods are so huge. My Scarlet runners were often not fully mature in time too, but this one was ready despite an early fall. I thought it was, all in all, a really great and dependable bean.

 

[flowerbug]

updates from the bean page at: https://www.anthive.com/project/beans/ (the larger picture links are in there i'm not sure anyone really ever looks at them):


less color enhanced Spotted Pheasant Child

most of the beans from 2020 finally more organised

Seven of the Monster Childen

Six of the Domino Children

and no, i don't like how the colors are working out for these pictures either, but until i can get a colorimeter it is what i've got. i hope i can get an order put in for one this next week, but i keep dragging my feet too much. i hate shopping...

 

[heirloomgal]

Nice beans @flowerbug, the blueish coloured ones in the photo second from the bottom are especially pretty. Speckled beans

 

[heirloomgal]

Weather right now -18, with a Feels like rating of -23...

O Beans, Where Art Thou......?

 

[heirloomgal]

@flowerbug I just tried to like your post above, but it wouldn't register it? Any ideas why?


---->Oh, I just got it to work by pressing the thumbs up icon, usually I only press 'like' though.....

 

[flowerbug]

Nice beans @flowerbug, the blueish coloured ones in the photo second from the bottom are especially pretty. Speckled beans

those in that picture are some of decendents of Dapple Grey and an outcross which showed up the first season i planted them that i called Monster. in retrospect that was such an apt name. it's been fun ever since. i still don't really know who the parents were or if this was some strange reversion to types or something else but the decendents have been all over the place with the colors and patterns. plus since i don't isolate the beans here as i grow them and there are enough bees around that will pollinate my beans perhaps other crosses have also happened. it would be funny if they have, but how would i know for sure unless i had genetic samples of all the beans i've grown and also of what i grew that year?

i've also had Dappled Grey come back too as some of Monster Children. the blue speckled pattern is in DG. so too is the pink and tan colors and the other patterns and colors. it's amazing to me to see all these aspects come out in single beans at times.