Zeedman
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A Seed Saver's Garden
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I had fun doing a tad bit of reading about chimeras in humans and other mammals last night. DD had some questions after I mentioned the term relating to surgical transplants.
Marmosets have been studied for chimerism occurring naturally. A common birth is 2 or more babies, so fraternal twins. Relatively often they share tissue.
. . Ha!I did only a skim of a 21 page pdf file. But, you can find a sentence or 2 about it and the reference link in Wikipedia LINK
BTW. A person's tissue from one part of the body showing up elsewhere in his/her body is not uncommon.
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We have reached what I would think of as a "lingering" period in the gardens. Everything's MOSTLY over, but some plants are still trying to eke out a little more before giving up the ghost.
The problem with this is it sort of puts a pause on some of the finishing up for some things. For example, I don't SEAL the seed packet for a tomato type until all of the seed I am going to collect is in it (cause you can only lick those things once* So, as long as there are still fruits than might make seed, the envelopes stay open (and at risk of falling over and getting mixed up, ruining my efforts to keep everything discrete.
Same with the regular beans; at this point, I don't know whether to keep the pods they are churning out as is and hope for more mature seeds, or pick them young and see how some stack up as green/snap beans (not that there are ever enough at one time to really make that worthwhile).
Ditto the mungs, there are pods on most of the ones in the long pot, but they are a pretty far way off from maturity. Plus, I am now having to content with something that is chewing into the side of the pods as they mature and eating the developing seeds out before maturity kicks in. As for the "wild" mung beans, I'm not totally sure I got ANY fully mature seed from those. I MIGHT have, but most of what came back was green (which there wild were not when I planted them,) and the wild seem to like to pull the "soybean" trick (reach full pod size quickly, and then go into virtual stasis and never finish up and mature) and what came from there and from the long pot are starting to get mixed up.
To cap it off, the last of the cucumber vines alive has decided to start making its female flowers, so I might get ONE more cucumber (based on what I saw with the last ones, as soon as one fruit reaches a size where it might mature, the plant puts all of its energy into that one, and dies off when it is ripe enough to get there),
The Mouse garlic was a washout, none of it made even the hint of a bulb (I was actually able to get it out without disturbing the mystery vine. Surprised me when I looked that whole mess is actually all just one plant.)
The problem with this is it sort of puts a pause on some of the finishing up for some things. For example, I don't SEAL the seed packet for a tomato type until all of the seed I am going to collect is in it (cause you can only lick those things once* So, as long as there are still fruits than might make seed, the envelopes stay open (and at risk of falling over and getting mixed up, ruining my efforts to keep everything discrete.
Same with the regular beans; at this point, I don't know whether to keep the pods they are churning out as is and hope for more mature seeds, or pick them young and see how some stack up as green/snap beans (not that there are ever enough at one time to really make that worthwhile).
Ditto the mungs, there are pods on most of the ones in the long pot, but they are a pretty far way off from maturity. Plus, I am now having to content with something that is chewing into the side of the pods as they mature and eating the developing seeds out before maturity kicks in. As for the "wild" mung beans, I'm not totally sure I got ANY fully mature seed from those. I MIGHT have, but most of what came back was green (which there wild were not when I planted them,) and the wild seem to like to pull the "soybean" trick (reach full pod size quickly, and then go into virtual stasis and never finish up and mature) and what came from there and from the long pot are starting to get mixed up.
To cap it off, the last of the cucumber vines alive has decided to start making its female flowers, so I might get ONE more cucumber (based on what I saw with the last ones, as soon as one fruit reaches a size where it might mature, the plant puts all of its energy into that one, and dies off when it is ripe enough to get there),
The Mouse garlic was a washout, none of it made even the hint of a bulb (I was actually able to get it out without disturbing the mystery vine. Surprised me when I looked that whole mess is actually all just one plant.)
flowerbug
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I had fun doing a tad bit of reading about chimeras in humans and other mammals last night. DD had some questions after I mentioned the term relating to surgical transplants.
Marmosets have been studied for chimerism occurring naturally. A common birth is 2 or more babies, so fraternal twins. Relatively often they share tissue.
I did only a skim of a 21 page pdf file. But, you can find a sentence or 2 about it and the reference link in Wikipedia LINK
BTW. A person's tissue from one part of the body showing up elsewhere in his/her body is not uncommon.
i think i mentioned this before but just in case you've not heard of it, women who have had babies will have some cells of the baby in their body.
Baby’s Cells Can Manipulate Mom’s Body for Decades
An evolutionary approach may help scientists understand why mothers become genetic chimeras and how that affects their health
www.smithsonianmag.com
