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Jared77

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if you do cross stupice with egf1, let the stupice be the female parent.
Why do you think I should go this way? Especially with the tender stigma? I'm not arguing just wondering the thought process there.

Remember, it is MUCH more difficult to stabilize a DOMINANT trait than a recessive trait.

^ looking up at that sentence to make sure I said it right^ double check!
YEP, said it right.
Got that right!
 

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Jared, I also consider the chloroplast and mitochondria. I should have said that. Sorry.

Stupice as a non hybrid still has very good vigor. Early Girl's vigor surely at least partially comes from being a hybrid.

It is my feeling that some vigor does come from good mitochondria and chloroplast organelles, and Stupice does have a proven good system.

That's the main reason.

The other good reason is that using the pl as the female gives almost instant recognition of proven crossed seeds, at least with the rl trait a person will be looking for.

My reasoning for it to be a good cross would be to have a standard variety with early girl's growth characteristics and disease resistance, at least some of it, along with what will almost surely be a good tomato.

I think a better chance to have eg's growth system will be with the rl segregations only since eg is rl. I might be wrong.

(For those not familiar with the basics of plant breeding seeing all these funny words...i agree! there can be an entire species of jokes based on the things geneticists say! especially the molecular geneticists! aaaaa! "the hbox3 derivative of the allelic homeopathy once pcr hybridized attains a level of bivalent hydrolic potential...")
 

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Jared77 said:
Smart Red its funny you mentioned Rutgers its on my need to try list to replace Romas. Maybe Ill have a pasta sauce mix of Anna Russians, Rutgers, and Black Trifles. :drool
Rutgers isn't really a good sauce tomato. I can it for soups and tomato dishes. For sauce I use a paste tomato such as Roma or my favorite Gilberte Red Paste (huge and meaty).

And, yes, I start new plants every three weeks because the Rutgers all tend to ripen about the same time -- making it easy for canning. I toss the spent Rutgers and set the new ones so I'm not waiting around for enough tomatoes to can.

Love, Smart Red
 

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Smart Red, where do you get your Gilbertes? I grew Roma last year and wasn't impressed with it. I grew Rutgers and wasn't impressed with them either. Not a good tomato year here in SEMO. I'm open to suggestions. May try a couple of Early Girl, just cause Jared77 gives them good marks.
 

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