FDA Nears Approval of Genetically Engineered Salmon

[boggybranch]

Yep.......and you know, sooner or later, some WILL escape just like killer bees did. BUT, if it can't reproduce, those that do escape will die out in short order.....unlike killer bees.

 

[seedcorn]

Farmed salmon are raised in net pens in coastal waters along Washington state, Maine and British Columbia. Most commonly, the fish being raised are Atlantic salmon, and the fear is they'll escape and compete with endangered native stocks. By some estimates, between 400,000 and 1 million Atlantic salmon have escaped into the wild from the 75 or so net-pen operations in British Columbia.

If they were sterile, I'd be OK w/it. If they are not, don't want them in same environment as natives.

For those that say they are against it PERIOD, think mule, zebra crosses, buffalo crosses, etc.

 

[Kim_NC]

GMOs are not a cross like a typical hybrid plant, fish or animal. GMOs are created by genetically altering the DNA of an organisim. The DNA is 'split', reconfigured by adding a component gene from other species, and then put back together. There is nothing natural about the process - plant and animal genes are crossed into each other, unrelated species are DNA combined/altered, etc. It's not anything like mules, zebra crosses, etc.

To learn more about how GMOs are produced, read this layman's article:
http://www.nongmoshoppingguide.com/SG/AboutGMOs/index.cfm

And you owe it to yourself/your health to read this one:
Doctors Warn: Avoid Genetically Modified Food
http://www.responsibletechnology.org/utility/showArticle/?objectID=2989

There are serious long reaching consquences of Genetic Engineering. Things that could change the world as we know it, and not for the better. I often think of this phrase in the context of GMOs....

"Do not mess with Creaton, for you are small, insignificant and biodegradeable."

 

[hoodat]

Farmed salmon are raised in net pens in coastal waters along Washington state, Maine and British Columbia. Most commonly, the fish being raised are Atlantic salmon, and the fear is they'll escape and compete with endangered native stocks. By some estimates, between 400,000 and 1 million Atlantic salmon have escaped into the wild from the 75 or so net-pen operations in British Columbia.

If they were sterile, I'd be OK w/it. If they are not, don't want them in same environment as natives.

For those that say they are against it PERIOD, think mule, zebra crosses, buffalo crosses, etc.

Remember this quote from "Jurassic ParK"? It may have been just a movie but the quote is very true.
"Broadly speaking, the ability of the park is to control the spread of life forms. Because the history of evolution is that life escapes all barriers. Life breaks free. Life expands to new territories. Painfully, perhaps even dangerously. But life finds a way." Malcolm shook his head. "I don't mean to be philosophical, but there it is."
Ian Malcolm

 

[wifezilla]

Anyone else remembering that line from Jurassic Park?

"I'm simply saying that life, uh, finds a way"

Next thing ya know we are all running away in terror....

Hey! You type faster than me! LOL

 

[seedcorn]

GMOs are not a cross like a typical hybrid plant, fish or animal. GMOs are created by genetically altering the DNA of an organisim. The DNA is 'split', reconfigured by adding a component gene from other species, and then put back together. There is nothing natural about the process - plant and animal genes are crossed into each other, unrelated species are DNA combined/altered, etc. It's not anything like mules, zebra crosses, etc.

To learn more about how GMOs are produced, read this layman's article:
http://www.nongmoshoppingguide.com/SG/AboutGMOs/index.cfm

And you owe it to yourself/your health to read this one:
Doctors Warn: Avoid Genetically Modified Food
http://www.responsibletechnology.org/utility/showArticle/?objectID=2989

There are serious long reaching consquences of Genetic Engineering. Things that could change the world as we know it, and not for the better. I often think of this phrase in the context of GMOs....

"Do not mess with Creaton, for you are small, insignificant and biodegradeable."

GMO's are made by infecting the plant w/bacteria that carries the desired gene. Bacteria invades the plant, leaving behind the gene like a virus. The old way was to blast the desired plant material into another plant with a 22 shell. You then did a DNA check to see if any of the plants were infected w/the desired gene. It's all fairly simple in concept.

Your first article in not accurate on some of it's assumptions are incorrect.

 

[boggybranch]

Ya'll, I know that I'm thick skulled.....but whether it is done by "natural" cross breeding or scientifically engineered change....either way, the original DNA is changed to create a completely different fish that will share a DNA link with the originals and, yet, be different....right. Just trying to wrap my brain around it.

 

[hoodat]

Ya'll, I know that I'm thick skulled.....but whether it is done by "natural" cross breeding or scientifically engineered change....either way, the original DNA is changed to create a completely different fish that will share a DNA link with the originals and, yet, be different....right. Just trying to wrap my brain around it.

Look at it this way. A naturally mutated goat gene will still be a goat gene only somewhat altered. A goat with that gene may or may not be visibly altered from the original but it will still be all goat. It will not suddenly become a spider.
On the other hand (and this has been done) cutting out a goat gene that influences milk production and replacing it with a spider gene so that the goats milk now has threads of spider silk has completely changed the nature of that goat. It is now part spider. Nature never would have allowed that cross.

 

[boggybranch]

Ya'll, I know that I'm thick skulled.....but whether it is done by "natural" cross breeding or scientifically engineered change....either way, the original DNA is changed to create a completely different fish that will share a DNA link with the originals and, yet, be different....right. Just trying to wrap my brain around it.

Look at it this way. A naturally mutated goat gene will still be a goat gene only somewhat altered. A goat with that gene may or may not be visibly altered from the original but it will still be all goat. It will not suddenly become a spider.
On the other hand (and this has been done) cutting out a goat gene that influences milk production and replacing it with a spider gene so that the goats milk now has threads of spider silk has completely changed the nature of that goat. It is now part spider. Nature never would have allowed that cross.

Hahaha...Now, you're just tryin to make my head hurt.

 

[Ladyhawke1]

GMOs are not a cross like a typical hybrid plant, fish or animal. GMOs are created by genetically altering the DNA of an organisim. The DNA is 'split', reconfigured by adding a component gene from other species, and then put back together. There is nothing natural about the process - plant and animal genes are crossed into each other, unrelated species are DNA combined/altered, etc. It's not anything like mules, zebra crosses, etc.

To learn more about how GMOs are produced, read this layman's article:
http://www.nongmoshoppingguide.com/SG/AboutGMOs/index.cfm

And you owe it to yourself/your health to read this one:
Doctors Warn: Avoid Genetically Modified Food
http://www.responsibletechnology.org/utility/showArticle/?objectID=2989

There are serious long reaching consquences of Genetic Engineering. Things that could change the world as we know it, and not for the better. I often think of this phrase in the context of GMOs....

"Do not mess with Creaton, for you are small, insignificant and biodegradeable."

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