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Driving the price of meat animals below production. Raising the price of product they sell. They understand law of supply/demand. They control supply. Needed an excuse to implement plan. Thank you Coronavirus.

No one on this board wants to acknowledge it but the things that have went on in the Coronavirus hysteria will haunt us for years to come. Follow the money, is all I will say. It will all become clear in near future.
 
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Driving the price of meat animals below production. Raising the price of product they sell. They understand law of supply/demand. They control supply. Needed an excuse to implement plan. Thank you Coronavirus.

No one on this board wants to acknowledge it but the things that have went on in the Coronavirus hysteria will haunt us for years to come. Follow the money, is all I will say. It will all become clear in near future.
An emergency of this magnitude will always be utilized by the unscrupulous, to implement measures which they could never get away with in saner times... be those people corporations, or governments. Both seem anxious to capitalize on COVID-19 for their own reasons.
 

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Based on what one sees on the telly and observes while driving to and from the grocery, the coronavirus quarantine is not always being observed. Government official continue to appeal to nobler instincts, but with mixed results.

Does history provide a Plan B? Indeed it does! Dr. Charles Ingrao elaborates on public health strategy in 'The Habsburg Monarchy, 1618-1815.' ''The Habsburg monarch Joseph I invoked harsh rules for those who violated quarantines. A contemporary wrote: 'If you break the laws of the quarantine, you will be tried with military haste; the court will scream out a sentence to you … and after that you will find yourself carefully shot and carelessly buried.'
 

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You will probably not hear any of this on your tv news coverage. Just thought I'd share some actual facts.

"... According to the CDC there are an average 7,838 deaths in the U.S. every day.

According to the CDC: 0.2% to 1.8% of all U.S. deaths since February are confirmed or presumed to be due to COVID-19. And they are destroying the economy over this.

The Gateway Pundit reported:

According to the collected data:

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79% (910/150) are over the age of 65
** 90% (1033/1150) are over the age of 55
** 3.5% are under 45
** 0.7 (9/1150) are under 35

“Like other reports the VAST MAJORITY of the coronavirus deaths are people over age 65 — nearly 80%.”

Additionally, the coronavirus recovery rate is very high. “The fatality rate from COVID-19 is not as high as experts have reported, according to a new analysis published Monday in The Lancet Infectious Diseases. In the new analysis, the death rate in confirmed COVID-19 cases is estimated to be 1.38%, while the overall rate, which includes estimated unconfirmed cases, is calculated at .66%,” WebMD reported.

There was no lockdown or shelter-at-home order during the 2009 H1N1 flu. The numbers show approximately 60.8 million cases, 274,304 hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths occurred in the United States due to H1N1, according the the Center for Disease Control and National Institute for Health. There was no political or media hysteria, and there was no 24/7 news coverage of it. ..."
 

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There was no lockdown or shelter-at-home order during the 2009 H1N1 flu. The numbers show approximately 60.8 million cases, 274,304 hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths occurred in the United States due to H1N1, according the the Center for Disease Control and National Institute for Health. There was no political or media hysteria, and there was no 24/7 news coverage of it. ..."

kind of silly to compare to H1N1. This is more easily spread and more lethal. Ok, there were 12,500 deaths from H1N1 with no quarantine, stay at home, or social distancing. There have been over 10,500 covid-19 deaths in NY state alone. With quarantine measures and social distancing in place. Obviously it would be much worse without these measures.
 

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Nope. Not silly at all. If you don't think this is a power play and are believing the main stream "reporting" than no statistics are ever going to convince you otherwise. I'm not going to engage in an argument with you.

..."Public health officials are making decisions which are killing off businesses and tanking the economy, despite that in the U.S., a country of 329,227,746 million people, there are 239,279 total coronavirus cases and 5,443 total deaths, according to the CDC. The Worldometer coronavirus website says there have been 7,896 coronavirus deaths in the U.S. as of April 4, 2020. ..."
 
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People that work with virus out breaks on a daily basis-swine producers-will all tell you the only way to control a virus is either infect all (they develop their own antibodies) or vaccinate. Since this virus likes to mutate. Vaccines of very limited use. Whenever everyone comes out of their homes, the virus will then be spread to those who have not been infected. IMO, it’s not IF you will get introduced to this virus but when.

Caution anyone to not get excited over stats since currently all deaths are being credited to Coronavirus.
 
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