n95 dust masks

[TwinCitiesPanda]

Nope. Not silly at all. If you don't think this is a power play and are believing the main stream "reporting" than no statistics are ever going to convince you otherwise.

literally the numbers you provided show that this is worse than H1N1. Feel free to lick all the doorknobs you want and hug/kiss everyone you love and put them and yourself at risk, but I’ll be social distancing thanks. A “power play” that nearly every government around the world has coordinated together on? I’m not buying it. Fewer foil hats and more gloves and masks would go a long way.

 

[TwinCitiesPanda]

Nope. Not silly at all. If you don't think this is a power play and are believing the main stream "reporting" than no statistics are ever going to convince you otherwise. I'm not going to engage in an argument with you.

..."Public health officials are making decisions which are killing off businesses and tanking the economy, despite that in the U.S., a country of 329,227,746 million people, there are 239,279 total coronavirus cases and 5,443 total deaths, according to the CDC. The Worldometer coronavirus website says there have been 7,896 coronavirus deaths in the U.S. as of April 4, 2020. ..."

and as of today the CDC says there have been 24,500 deaths. By all means don’t argue with me. you’re wrong and spreading dangerous misinformation. And don’t tell me we can’t trust those numbers, if you trusted the CDC on April 4th you should still trust it on April 14th.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

 

[thistlebloom]

and as of today the CDC says there have been 24,500 deaths. By all means don’t argue with me. you’re wrong and spreading dangerous misinformation. And don’t tell me we can’t trust those numbers, if you trusted the CDC on April 4th you should still trust it on April 14th.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Provisional COVID-19 Mortality Surveillance

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

Table 5. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/11/2020.*

Data as of April 15, 2020

Jurisdiction of Occurrence	COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Pneumonia Deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3	Influenza Deaths (J09–J11)4
United States5	9,681	558,576	88	41,743	4,353	4,968
Alabama	22	9,795	84	574	7	78
Alaska	1	686	74	33	1	3
Arizona	62	13,201	98	870	37	99
Arkansas	10	6,536	92	427	2	64
California	349	56,682	93	4,596	196	523
Colorado	138	8,478	97	592	84	82
Connecticut	0	0	0	0	0	0
Delaware	2	1,476	72	72	2	9
District of Columbia	10	1,152	86	105	10	6
Florida	253	44,461	95	2,994	151	258
Georgia	100	15,366	83	878	54	84
Hawaii	2	2,361	92	161	0	16
Idaho	17	2,987	95	163	5	24
Illinois	246	23,381	99	1,794	146	161
Indiana	47	12,818	87	978	21	111
Iowa	21	6,162	91	440	4	77
Kansas	12	5,335	89	356	5	81
Kentucky	6	8,413	78	712	3	77
Louisiana	185	8,204	82	448	81	57
Maine	13	3,176	97	273	6	29
Maryland	138	10,820	97	843	69	94
Massachusetts	293	13,070	97	1,184	137	142
Michigan	347	20,253	94	1,438	159	196
Minnesota	35	9,229	95	634	12	111
Mississippi	69	6,509	94	548	26	52
Missouri	34	12,205	85	737	14	158
Montana	3	1,911	83	116	1	30
Nebraska	3	3,260	86	249	2	25
Nevada	43	5,264	92	392	33	34
New Hampshire	24	2,689	99	179	10	29
New Jersey	593	16,044	96	1,305	303	93
New Mexico	3	3,327	81	225	2	23
New York6	1,493	23,353	105	2,802	842	171
New York City	4,168	18,991	158	2,947	1,519	426
North Carolina	0	6,827	32	422	0	71
North Dakota	3	1,350	87	113	0	17
Ohio	25	21,006	76	1,098	11	195
Oklahoma	31	7,046	79	618	12	85
Oregon	29	6,808	85	363	17	52
Pennsylvania	220	21,573	70	1,348	98	170
Rhode Island	3	1,780	77	87	1	21
South Carolina	50	10,589	98	619	23	87
South Dakota	5	1,625	89	129	2	18
Tennessee	39	14,870	91	1,088	20	115
Texas	84	40,052	89	2,835	31	289
Utah	11	3,914	95	234	5	36
Vermont	23	1,307	102	87	9	14
Virginia	63	14,280	94	717	21	92
Washington	291	11,946	93	943	147	93
West Virginia	0	3,761	74	258	0	45
Wisconsin	62	11,332	97	648	12	138
Wyoming	0	915	93	71	0	7
Puerto Rico	29	3,955	62	558	16	26

NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period.
*Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction, age, and cause of death.
1Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1.
2Percent of expected deaths is the number of deaths for all causes for this week in 2020 compared to the average number across the same week in 2017–2019.
3Pneumonia death counts exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.
4Influenza death counts include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.
5United States death count includes the 50 states, plus the District of Columbia and New York City.
6Excludes New York City.

 

[henless]

The corona virus is bad, I agree. Specially for those of us who are older, with underlying health problems or compromised immune systems. Do I believe the govt. is telling us the truth about it all? Not in a million years.

 

[thistlebloom]

and as of today the CDC says there have been 24,500 deaths. By all means don’t argue with me. you’re wrong and spreading dangerous misinformation. And don’t tell me we can’t trust those numbers, if you trusted the CDC on April 4th you should still trust it on April 14th.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Provisional COVID-19 Mortality Surveillance

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

Table 5. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19),pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/11/2020.*

Data as of April 15, 2020

Jurisdiction of Occurrence	COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Pneumonia Deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3	Influenza Deaths (J09–J11)4
United States5	9,681	558,576	88	41,743	4,353	4,968
Alabama	22	9,795	84	574	7	78
Alaska	1	686	74	33	1	3
Arizona	62	13,201	98	870	37	99
Arkansas	10	6,536	92	427	2	64
California	349	56,682	93	4,596	196	523
Colorado	138	8,478	97	592	84	82
Connecticut	0	0	0	0	0	0
Delaware	2	1,476	72	72	2	9
District of Columbia	10	1,152	86	105	10	6
Florida	253	44,461	95	2,994	151	258
Georgia	100	15,366	83	878	54	84
Hawaii	2	2,361	92	161	0	16
Idaho	17	2,987	95	163	5	24
Illinois	246	23,381	99	1,794	146	161
Indiana	47	12,818	87	978	21	111
Iowa	21	6,162	91	440	4	77
Kansas	12	5,335	89	356	5	81
Kentucky	6	8,413	78	712	3	77
Louisiana	185	8,204	82	448	81	57
Maine	13	3,176	97	273	6	29
Maryland	138	10,820	97	843	69	94
Massachusetts	293	13,070	97	1,184	137	142
Michigan	347	20,253	94	1,438	159	196
Minnesota	35	9,229	95	634	12	111
Mississippi	69	6,509	94	548	26	52
Missouri	34	12,205	85	737	14	158
Montana	3	1,911	83	116	1	30
Nebraska	3	3,260	86	249	2	25
Nevada	43	5,264	92	392	33	34
New Hampshire	24	2,689	99	179	10	29
New Jersey	593	16,044	96	1,305	303	93
New Mexico	3	3,327	81	225	2	23
New York6	1,493	23,353	105	2,802	842	171
New York City	4,168	18,991	158	2,947	1,519	426
North Carolina	0	6,827	32	422	0	71
North Dakota	3	1,350	87	113	0	17
Ohio	25	21,006	76	1,098	11	195
Oklahoma	31	7,046	79	618	12	85
Oregon	29	6,808	85	363	17	52
Pennsylvania	220	21,573	70	1,348	98	170
Rhode Island	3	1,780	77	87	1	21
South Carolina	50	10,589	98	619	23	87
South Dakota	5	1,625	89	129	2	18
Tennessee	39	14,870	91	1,088	20	115
Texas	84	40,052	89	2,835	31	289
Utah	11	3,914	95	234	5	36
Vermont	23	1,307	102	87	9	14
Virginia	63	14,280	94	717	21	92
Washington	291	11,946	93	943	147	93
West Virginia	0	3,761	74	258	0	45
Wisconsin	62	11,332	97	648	12	138
Wyoming	0	915	93	71	0	7
Puerto Rico	29	3,955	62	558	16	26

NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period.
*Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction, age, and cause of death.
1Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1.
2Percent of expected deaths is the number of deaths for all causes for this week in 2020 compared to the average number across the same week in 2017–2019.
3Pneumonia death counts exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.
4Influenza death counts include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.
5United States death count includes the 50 states, plus the District of Columbia and New York City.
6Excludes New York City.

 

[TwinCitiesPanda]

Provisional COVID-19 Mortality Surveillance

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

Table 5. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19),pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/11/2020.*

Data as of April 15, 2020

Jurisdiction of Occurrence	COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Pneumonia Deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3	Influenza Deaths (J09–J11)4
United States5	9,681	558,576	88	41,743	4,353	4,968
Alabama	22	9,795	84	574	7	78
Alaska	1	686	74	33	1	3
Arizona	62	13,201	98	870	37	99
Arkansas	10	6,536	92	427	2	64
California	349	56,682	93	4,596	196	523
Colorado	138	8,478	97	592	84	82
Connecticut	0	0	0	0	0	0
Delaware	2	1,476	72	72	2	9
District of Columbia	10	1,152	86	105	10	6
Florida	253	44,461	95	2,994	151	258
Georgia	100	15,366	83	878	54	84
Hawaii	2	2,361	92	161	0	16
Idaho	17	2,987	95	163	5	24
Illinois	246	23,381	99	1,794	146	161
Indiana	47	12,818	87	978	21	111
Iowa	21	6,162	91	440	4	77
Kansas	12	5,335	89	356	5	81
Kentucky	6	8,413	78	712	3	77
Louisiana	185	8,204	82	448	81	57
Maine	13	3,176	97	273	6	29
Maryland	138	10,820	97	843	69	94
Massachusetts	293	13,070	97	1,184	137	142
Michigan	347	20,253	94	1,438	159	196
Minnesota	35	9,229	95	634	12	111
Mississippi	69	6,509	94	548	26	52
Missouri	34	12,205	85	737	14	158
Montana	3	1,911	83	116	1	30
Nebraska	3	3,260	86	249	2	25
Nevada	43	5,264	92	392	33	34
New Hampshire	24	2,689	99	179	10	29
New Jersey	593	16,044	96	1,305	303	93
New Mexico	3	3,327	81	225	2	23
New York6	1,493	23,353	105	2,802	842	171
New York City	4,168	18,991	158	2,947	1,519	426
North Carolina	0	6,827	32	422	0	71
North Dakota	3	1,350	87	113	0	17
Ohio	25	21,006	76	1,098	11	195
Oklahoma	31	7,046	79	618	12	85
Oregon	29	6,808	85	363	17	52
Pennsylvania	220	21,573	70	1,348	98	170
Rhode Island	3	1,780	77	87	1	21
South Carolina	50	10,589	98	619	23	87
South Dakota	5	1,625	89	129	2	18
Tennessee	39	14,870	91	1,088	20	115
Texas	84	40,052	89	2,835	31	289
Utah	11	3,914	95	234	5	36
Vermont	23	1,307	102	87	9	14
Virginia	63	14,280	94	717	21	92
Washington	291	11,946	93	943	147	93
West Virginia	0	3,761	74	258	0	45
Wisconsin	62	11,332	97	648	12	138
Wyoming	0	915	93	71	0	7
Puerto Rico	29	3,955	62	558	16	26

NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period.
*Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction, age, and cause of death.
1Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1.
2Percent of expected deaths is the number of deaths for all causes for this week in 2020 compared to the average number across the same week in 2017–2019.
3Pneumonia death counts exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.
4Influenza death counts include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.
5United States death count includes the 50 states, plus the District of Columbia and New York City.
6Excludes New York City.

Keep cherry picking all the info you want. The figures I posted include deaths that are probable covid deaths as well, because we couldn’t test everyone who had all the symptoms and died. Your source only considers filed death certificates, and admits it is lagging 1-8 weeks behind (during an exponentially increasing death rate) because these things take time. So sure. Let’s use these numbers. Let me know what they say in 8 weeks and we’ll know for sure where we were today on deaths.

maybe a worldwide conspiracy between shadow governments to crash the world economy is just more comforting to you than a pandemic. I lay every avoidable covid-19 death at the feet of people who refuse to look at data, listen to experts, and help save lives because they were too busy calling it a hoax, an exaggeration, and a conspiracy.

 

[thistlebloom]

Herd immunity. Protect the vulnerable by all means, but let the daily business of life go on. Our local hospital is a ghost town, as are many others across the country.

And there certainly can be global collusion. Not impossible by any means. No foil hat here. Just simple common sense.

 

[thistlebloom]

Keep cherry picking all the info you want. The figures I posted include deaths that are probable covid deaths as well, because we couldn’t test everyone who had all the symptoms and died. Your source only considers filed death certificates, and admits it is lagging 1-8 weeks behind (during an exponentially increasing death rate) because these things take time. So sure. Let’s use these numbers. Let me know what they say in 8 weeks and we’ll know for sure where we were today on deaths.

maybe a worldwide conspiracy between shadow governments to crash the world economy is just more comforting to you than a pandemic. I lay every avoidable covid-19 death at the feet of people who refuse to look at data, listen to experts, and help save lives because they were too busy calling it a hoax, an exaggeration, and a conspiracy.

All the stats are lagging, and I quoted the CDC official page.

 

[seedcorn]

@thistlebloom When people are panicking, stats and facts are of little value.

@Zeedman Is licking door knobs a Wisconsin or Minnesota habit? We don’t do that in Indiana. Although my son licked a frozen pole to see if your tongue would stick. It did..

 

[flowerbug]

Based on what one sees on the telly and observes while driving to and from the grocery, the coronavirus quarantine is not always being observed. Government official continue to appeal to nobler instincts, but with mixed results.

Does history provide a Plan B? Indeed it does! Dr. Charles Ingrao elaborates on public health strategy in 'The Habsburg Monarchy, 1618-1815.' ''The Habsburg monarch Joseph I invoked harsh rules for those who violated quarantines. A contemporary wrote: 'If you break the laws of the quarantine, you will be tried with military haste; the court will scream out a sentence to you … and after that you will find yourself carefully shot and carelessly buried.'

"The finest spring peepers, lightly killed..."