2024 Little Easy Bean Network - Growing Heirloom Beans Of Today And Tomorrow

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The Deaflora store has the correct Gold und Silber seeds, that's where the ones I sowed in 2023 come from.


I have written to Deaflora and Guy Dirix about this bean. I'm curious to see their responses.
Keep us posted @Artorius. I'd love to hear the story of this bean, and about this outcross that @Decoy1 and I have. I wonder if our twin beans are originally from the same gene pool.
 

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I discovered an inadvertent perk of my new trellis; typically I lean the tall poles against the shed, or the eave of the house. Somewhere tall since I cut the trees to about 12 feet or more. But they always slide sideways and fall, and usually need to be put back several times a day. I lose beans when they do this too, as the crash can make pods erupt as happened several times in the last 2 weeks. Finally I have a solution! lol
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Tried for a better pic of the Purple Dove cross.
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Got a comparison picture of Santa Maria Pinquito with rice and lentils. It's under my stove range hood so lighting is off, but the size perspective is there. 3 grains of rice is equivalent in size to it, as is a lentil!
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I re=grew the hyacinth beans which were smothered by weeds in the rural garden last year, to see what they would do under better conditions. Like everything else this year, they were planted (from transplants) in mid-July. They still took the entire 6' trellis, and were reaching for more.
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Hyacinth bean "Early Meaty", from asiangarden2table. The flowers look a lot like sweet peas, and the vines are rampant; these might be good as an edible, decorative trellis or arbor cover. A lot of beans too, even planted late this far North. A keeper!
 

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Yes, I've always attributed that shattering quality to wildness for seed dispersal effectiveness. Some of them even fling far and wide when the pods go. And it makes sense that it's an undesirable trait in dry beans, which is why I'm surprised to see it in several dry bean types this year. That said, none of these dry beans are commercial varieties. The Tinga peas this year REALLY fly far, I put 3 flats of drying pods in the sun last week and it was like listening to a popcorn maker. I had to go around the patio pavers picking up seeds later.

the pods which open very easily may not fling seeds as far as compared to those which have a bit more resistance. i've had lima beans flying across the room vs. Purple Dove which can move a ways but not as far.

my current hypothesis is that those beans which do not fly as far have a better resistance to white mold and some other hypothesis is that they may also finish closer to the same time and have more bush and semi-runner traits than pole beans.

note however, i do not grow a lot of pole beans here so it may also be observational biases from selecting mostly bush beans and some semi-runners...

it is also very likely that i won't get a chance to do any experiments to verify any of this stuff. :)
 

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Well, well, well. The mystery of the last 'super vigorous' Purple Dove plant has explained itself. This is what the seeds look like...I thought the pods seemed kind of skinny compared to the others? I can say for sure though that the cross was between 2 snap bean varieties because these were scrumptiously good. I got the seeds from PEI Seed Alliance so they had the cross, and they're market gardeners first and foremost, I imagine that they grow lots of snap beans. One thing that carried over from Purple Dove - the rusty eye. :rolleyes:

i may have some similar patterned beans but i won't see them again until i get the PD beans shelled out and i have thousands of them to do and many others besides... saw them in passing and didn't want to find yet another container to set aside at the time, so i can only point at the bag at the moment and say "They're in there..."

i like the red colors, also am not a fan of the rusty eye as you call it, i have some already crossed without the rusty eye but i also lost a lot of the other traits i like so they are not done yet.

i'm not sure what @Branching Out had for results this season but i think i did send them some of those white eyed seeds to grow and they might be willing to send some to you to see if you can get them to cross with those to perhaps eventually get a PD bean without the rusty eye. that is my goal. i'm not even sure if it is really possible (perhaps the traits i like are linked and can't be separated?), but i'll keep on trying.
 

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